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Then there is private schools that are using charity status too, why would or should any school private, state or either be charities?

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Then there is private schools that are using charity status too, why would or should any school private, state or either be charities?

Many state schools can claim charitable status, this enables them to claim back any VAT they pay on school supplies and equipment, this can help underfundeded state schools in many ways .

However I do not think that fat cat fee paying public schools should be given this status, in fact there are many Public schools I would like to see abolished. The so called public school tie favouritism sought by many of the chinless wonders who went to these elitist establishments is to me an abomination that places all the people who went to state schools at a disadvantage in general life.

I was a chinless wonder. Didn't ask to be, but thankful for my parents' hard work allowing me the chance. As is my mate who has no legs after stepping on an IED. A top chinless wonder who went to the top chinless school of Eton. As for some of my other chinless wonder colleagues that I served alongside in the British Army, I don't know if they're thankful, they're no longer around to tell me. That's six of them, if you're interested. And here's one who was a young lieutenant in my company just before I left. Public school from the age of 5, Cambridge graduate, Grenadier Guards.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-35...liban.html

To help everyone read between the lines, to be doing what he did in Iraq against ISIS means he might be (ahem) serving with that sneaky regiment who like to wear black and were founded by that chinless wonder David Sterling during WWII. But if I told you who they are I'd have to kill you. . If he is, he'd be serving alongside another Grenadier colleague who's a Lord. Yes, a real one and he didn't use his tie to get in. Who'd have thought, the public school educated aristocracy at the forefront of British military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Class chips are an awful, poisonous thing. Take the man, (or woman), for who he is, Not what he sounds like, what school he went to or any other sweeping generalisation. One of my Guardsmen chose not to. Broken home, grew up dealing drugs in a sink estate in Manchester, contestant trouble with the police, left school at 14, broken nose eight times, covered in tattoos, brother in prison for armed robbery, mother on incapacity benefit for smoking too much, sister a single mum by 15. Channel 4 could make a documentary on him. But he invited me to his wedding, in a social club, on the day Man U won the premiership so most people were wearing Devils tops rather than suits. But I was honoured as we could not have been more different. We have been great friends since because it's about who we ARE not wher we came from. He could easily have assumed that the posh chinless wonder wouldn't be worth thinking about, and I the same of the 'yob', but we didn't and I like to think I never would. But it gets my goat when people do, without getting to know me or my 'chums' (that's what we chinless wonders call our mates), and go for the same old cliches.

Trust me, I've met many, (and excusing my French as it needs to be said) many c**ts in my life, but there is frankly no difference if you're a yob c**t or a posh c**t. You either are or aren't. Likewise a liar, a thief, an adulterer etc etc. The only difference is one might favour trainers the other suede loafers. On the other hand there are many generous, loving, kind, intelligent, funny etc people from both ends of the spectrum. If you take the time to look past the cliches. Indeed my wife's parents are solid working class Bristolians, but does that come between us? No. I love them, and their daughter (for whom they worked their fingers to the bone to send to a private school), for who they are end of story. Their accents, clothes, education or anything else I could pick on has nothing to do with it.

So it's entirely up to you what you do, but perhaps try and get to know someone first before judging them, especially if that's because of their schooling which first you must accept they didn't choose and second, like it or not, offers a much better, much more rounded education that the state can currently offer. (Don't believe the liberal elite's hype that it doesn't. It does. What's more, charitable status or not, public/private school educations save the tax payer a fortune). So how can you fault someone because they have been well educated, isn't that what we'd all wish for for our children, our country's next generation? Crticise successive governments and blame them for f***ing up the state system, not for those who choose to take their kids out of it.

So there we are, said my piece. I hate bigotry of any kind, more so if it is based on myth or untruths. There are chinless wonders out there, as there are oiks, but it doesn't mean they're not great people. If we ever meet, feel free to think I'm an a***hole, no skin off my nose. But do it because I'm just that and not because of what I sound like or because I first meet you in suede loafers. And as far as I'm concerned, I will always be happy to meet you or any forum member (The Defender's greatest attribute is its classlessness) whether you're black, white, rich or poor, privately or non educated, bright or thick, live in a council house or Manor House etc etc. As long as you're a good egg (another favourite posh-ism), that's all that matters.

Sorry for the rant, but it's so tedious having to defend ultimately my parents, for having worked hard (admirable) to get me into a good school (admirable) and be given the best chance in life (admirable) and allow me to follow my only goal as a child and join the Army (admirable) that allowed my to serve my country, cap badged by one of the great regiments, in war (chinless or admirable?)

Here are my shoes:


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And these are my other suede shoes that went to war on behalf of all Brits, from oik to chinless. Not many 'normal' folk or of course chinless wonders, have done or seen as much as those boots.


Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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