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How do you intend to vote in the eu referendum on June 23rd?
Leave
60%
 60%  [88]
Remain
32%
 32%  [47]
Undecided
7%
 7%  [11]
Total Votes: 146

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Leviathan wrote:
I am sick and tired of bleating, sore losers throughout the media.

They imply that those that voted out are somehow less educated, or racist, or 'little englanders', or northern, or elderly, etc etc etc.

Dont they get it, even now?


Have you looked at the voter statistics?
I don't like the implication that just because you're in such and such a group means we shouldn't listen, but the results do clearly show that the poorer, less educated or older you are the more likely you were to have voted out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24...ed-old-an/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-t...d-and-why/

Then you have the Leave campaigners rubbishing their own campaign and effectively saying that anyone that listened to them were mistaken.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24...a-mistake/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629300

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628894

I really feel that the decision has been made on the basis of campaigning that the people involved knew was wrong. Now I've been saying that for a while but everyone just seems to keep reiterating the the arguments that have been dismissed by the people that made the claims in the first place.

Both sides made dubious claims, and unfortunately you're always going to expect over inflated figures. However I think the leave claims were over inflated to comical levels.
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need4speed wrote:
Right. Im having a rant. Ive just read about this stupid "petition" whereby a load of ******* hippies like those below want a 2nd referendum.
.

I'd say they should go get some work.........
Majority of them don't know what the meaning of work is.
I know some who don't know the difference between a spade and a shovel. And that is a matter of a fact.
Educated my foot!
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Quite right Steve Thumbs Up
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from my perspective people vote in or out based on their personal position and opinion, as we live in a democracy everyone's opinion is valid and of equal value . the country voted and voted out so we should just get on with is a quickly as possible, there is nothing to say another vote would come up with a different outcome so why waste any time. I think it is sad that some people think their opinion is more valid than others, or that someones age suggests their vote should be less valid, as some people interviewed on the telly have suggested. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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The unelected bureaucrats and commissioners plus the Remain campaign clearly and woefully underestimated the depth of feeling in the country on the issues of immigration and Sovereignty. Nobody I know (and I bet that goes for 90% of the electorate) had the foggiest idea about the economic arguments and risks.

The free movement of people and the seemingly endless meddling of British values and laws by the grey suits over the water had to be stopped.

"as we live in a democracy everyone's opinion is valid and of equal value" ....not sure I agree with that.... Paedos and serial rapists opinions are the same as mine and carry equal weight??? Dont think so, but the friggin European Court of Human Rights said they can still vote??? WTF!!!! Wannabe Defender Owner - on the hunt.

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I am one of those educated, 47 year old, finance sector workers who voted out. So what!!! My choice, my vote. Now can we leave the political stuff for twitter or other platforms and get back to the Defender2 Whistle
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i second that Thumbs Up
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Id rather talk about funny noises and leaks and at least we would probably all agree we don't want either of them DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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I third it. Thumbs Up
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Plenty of other threads to choose from sirs. Rolling with laughter Wannabe Defender Owner - on the hunt.

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Anyone else want a Union Jack as their Avatar here? Mr. Green
This one is just the right size.
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I'm certainly glad as an uneducated leave voter that I was only required to draw an X in a box with a big black crayon. I probably wouldn't have been able to cope with anything more complicated than that.........cheeky ba**ards. Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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custom90steve wrote:
Anyone else want a Union Jack as their Avatar here?


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Rick wrote 'I'm certainly glad as an uneducated leave voter that I was only required to draw an X in a box with a big black crayon. I probably wouldn't have been able to cope with anything more complicated than that.........cheeky ba**ards'

I'm also glad as a remainer that I could get my lazy pot riddled hippy ar5e out of bed and go and vote.

And Custom Steve - you can't call a Spade a Spade any more, not even if we are out of the EU.
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