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AJC



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285/75/16 on Standard Suspension - TD5 110
Firstly, i'd like evryone to know, i have searched this subject for several hours, read all the way through many threads, PM's memebers etc.

I'm considering fitting 285/75 16's to my 110 TD5,

Afterrmarket wheels are not essential but i don't mind buying them. 16x7/16x8

I don't want to lift my 110 ideally,i do a bit of laning so the suspension does get 'used' and there's times when the axles are crossed, so what i suppose i really need to know is, do they catch the arches or inner arch when 'articulating'.

If people have no issues, can you let me know what tyre you use, as i have found some tyres in the past have been far bigger than others despite being same 'size'

Also, wheel offsets, what do you run/use?

Thanks for reading.
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Hairysteve



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Barolo Black
Am running Duratrac 285/75/16 on d mods 16 x 8 with zero offset and have used them in the mud and recently up the French Alps snd their snow and have been brilliant.

There are a few pics in my gallery for you to look at Thumbs Up
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TDCi Guy



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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi HCPU Auto Keswick Green
I've got 285/75/16 bfg muds on standard offset boosts on my 90. They only ever catch the underside of the tub when I'm on an axle twister section, all other times they're fine. Tom
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I used to run 285/75 KM2s on my 110 on Boosts but fitted 30mm spacers to allow roundabouts etc to be negotiated (without spacers the turning circle was a joke). Boosts have a +33mm offset so with the spacers that becomes +3mm which works really well. I had no issues after that but be aware your vehicle will become plastered in crud and you have to keep the windows shut off-road or else you and the interior will be similarly plastered! MUD's "Dirt Defenders" or the Glyn Lewis mudflap modification will stop this though.

I now run 255/85 KM2s on +12mm offset wheels (no spacers) and it must be said that the road manners are better than with the 285s.
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AJC



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Thanks folks.

255/85 are another option. Have you any pictures with them on please black wolf?
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Hairysteve



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blackwolf wrote:
be aware your vehicle will become plastered in crud and you have to keep the windows shut off-road or else you and the interior will be similarly plastered! .


So true Blackwolf Laughing

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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
AJC wrote:
Thanks folks.

255/85 are another option. Have you any pictures with them on please black wolf?





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Loads more mud up the sides than 7.50s on standard steels. Better, but not *that* much better in gloop.

Not mine, but these are 9.00R16s on a 1-Ton:


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They're even taller than 255/85R16s and slightly narrower. Shame they're like rocking horse poo.
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blackwolf



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AJC wrote:
Thanks folks.

255/85 are another option. Have you any pictures with them on please black wolf?


I'll try to post some up tomorrow.
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AJC



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Thank you, I do like the look of them on the 285/75's but if 255/85 are the more logical choice i may be ebst going for them
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AJC



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Hairysteve wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
be aware your vehicle will become plastered in crud and you have to keep the windows shut off-road or else you and the interior will be similarly plastered! .


So true Blackwolf Laughing

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Thanks steve, i notice you're running extended wheel arches too, did you run 285's on o/e arches?
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Hairysteve



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Barolo Black
I had them on the originals but they extended past the arches so had to fit the wider arches to pass MOT.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Here you are.

Firstly 285/75x16 BFG KM2 on +33mm Boosts with 30mm spacers, standard arches:


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Secondly 255/85x16 BFG KM2 on +12mm Blindos, no spacers, standard arches:


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AJC



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Thanks for them 2 pictures blackwolf, they really show the difference well
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
You're welcome!

The 285s are just in the arches as set up in the top photo and are legal and pass MOTs with no problems. The 255s are marginally taller than the 285s, but (of course) 30mm narrower, and actually are vastly preferable in just about every respect. I had to trim a tiny bit off the inside lip of the rear wheelarch flares to fit the 255s, but surprisingly the 285s didn't need this (and it was actually only needed on one side, since LR build tolerances mean the whole vehicle is actually a bit lopsided)!

285s in mud or snow are generally useless since they slither about on top, whereas the narrower 255 tends to cut through to something solid better. If there's nothing solid at all, you're somewhat stuffed with either (you'll never get enough flotation with a road legal tyre not to sink). There is a surprising difference in dirvability too, since the 255s are less susceptible to 'tramlining' and other odd behaviours resulting from road surface defects, even though they are not immune.

Possibly the biggest issue with choosing 255/85x16 is the relatively limited choice of tyres - BFG KM2 are available in this size, but not the new KO2 sadly, and as far as I am aware there are no plans by BFG to introduce a KO2 in this size. I am a big fan of the Mud T/A (though in honesty I preferred the original pattern to the KM2), but might be tempted to try the KO2 if it was available in 255/85.
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jeffersj



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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green
I have 285 BFGs (not as in the Avatar) on the 90 with 30mm spacers with only slight amount outside the arches, pass MOT OK. You may have to adjust the lock-stop bolts as the 285s may foul the radius arms. Jeff
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