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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264   
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Tis a puma but as you say I'm not sure that matters?
Sounds like the same problem but making it go away permanently seems impossible....its comes and goes randomly...tried applying the hand brake on the move to varying degrees? |
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24th Feb 2015 8:32pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Yes, and if it is a bit steep, put transfer box in low first, then leave it in first gear when parked uphull, and in reverse if parked downhill. And for those who have problems with water ingress in the area between the screenframe and the bulkhead and/or the screen hinges, it is better to park nose down when it rains. With the specific design of the Defender this gives less chances of water ingress than when parking (steep) uphill when it rains 
By the way, I cannot find the thread anymore, but there has been a discussion on here quite some time ago that even on relatively mild slopes putting the Defender in gear alone without the handbrake will still allow the truck to slowly roll down, defeating the engine compression and all. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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24th Feb 2015 8:36pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 
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If you look at the bottom of the brake shoes is the difference in pad length opposite? If so isn't it just for rotational direction?
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24th Feb 2015 8:37pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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 let's just say if I can take apart it can't be difficult. |
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24th Feb 2015 8:52pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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reading your post i think you mean , when parked say front pointing downhill you would leave in reverse , or or front putting uphill you would leave in first gear , so either way the engine would have to turn backwards if thats the case i would not recommend that at all , for one there is no difference in compression AND the main one is that some diesel pump shouldn't be turned backwards and there is maybe a chance of timing chain jumping as your pulling on the opposite side to the chain adjuster as timing chain wears the slack is all up by adjuster on one side so in effect you could pull the slack back round could it happen , dont really know , but small possibility maybe yes car will still roll slowly if leave in gear without handbrake as compression will be lost place the rings slowly allowing engine to turn |
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24th Feb 2015 9:09pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5084  
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Jeez! I think it best then to never park on a hill. To be honest I never really trust handbrakes or parking brakes, as none of them have a failsafe feature and especially with the tonnage of a Land Rover just relying on a notch and cable system and two brake shoes griping a a metal ring. It might be called a transmission brake but it is only as strong as its weakest point and ther are many of those. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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25th Feb 2015 2:24pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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I wouldnt worry about being parked on a hill and leaving in gear , but just wouldnt want the engine to turn backwards , i always do leave in gear if parked on a hill
if parked facing down 1st gear or first low if parked facing up r gear or r low |
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25th Feb 2015 8:37pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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It kinda feels like a bearing for which the hole is too big, but you only really feel it between 40-50 mph. |
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2nd Mar 2015 12:32pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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Just to finish my bit off here.....
I swapped over the drums and ultimately didn't help. I'm now back on the original drum but only after fitting the new flange. Gonna use the original flange as some kind of paper weight  (bloody thing!) |
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15th Mar 2015 5:42pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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to be honest caterham , I would be very very surprised if the old flange is out of true , bits like that are made by the hundred by cnc machine , for one to be wrong there would be more wrong out there , and never heard of it before
guessing all round surfaces would have been machined at the same time (without moving the flange mounting I mean ) , so for one surface to be out im sure all would be out , first thing I bet it would pi55 out oil etc sure its just adjusted right this time 
would be intresting to know if you got it checked by someone with a lathe etc |
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15th Mar 2015 6:44pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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I hear what you're saying munch90 and completely agree.
I personally had the old drum off my times than I care to remember and I also had someone who k.ow what they were doing take it off and replaced the drum and still couldn't get it right. New drum off, new flange fitted, original drum back on and all ok? I can't explain it cos as you say how could one flange be made wrong. That said I've been told it's not the first? |
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15th Mar 2015 7:11pm |
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