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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Have you any theories as to why the black paint will help getting the nut/washer central?
Just asking Very Happy
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
If the shoe is moving and rubbing on the drum it will get so hot that all that nice paint will be coming off Whistle
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Dsc-off. Not sure but that's what it's come to....i'll try anything so here's to hoping the paint helps. very tempted to simply remove the shoes....then it won't get hot Very Happy
And shiny paint will stay on. Thumbs Up
Post #401072 22nd Feb 2015 10:04am
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to help the shoes move about then lub the places they rest on the back plate

use copperslip or maybe better proper ceramic grease ( not normal grease )

ceramic grease does seem to be a bit more slippery then copperslip

you can get ceramic grease in small tubes from motorfactors ( about £3-4 a tube )

and only a dab of grease will do the job
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France 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
I have changed my handbrake for an Xeng disc brake.Much more powerful & positive,plus easier to adjust.
Just my 2 penneth. Very Happy
Post #401075 22nd Feb 2015 10:15am
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^^^^ so have I Thumbs Up
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Very tempted and often thought about one. Just kinda like the idea of keeping it standard. If none of the hand brakes worked it would be a no brainer. It may well come to a change

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Did try the copper grease last time but not sure it helped - certainly didn't fully cure.
Post #401081 22nd Feb 2015 10:25am
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Just noticed something -it kinda looks right but I'm surprised it's not in the workshop manual?

Item 21 doesn't have a spring pulling it back onto the back plate (mine does) ?



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
left spring in place as I'm sure it should be there and suspect it's a mod since the exploded view above was created.

all back together, started her up and straight away something didn't seem right (no rattle at all - strangely quiet)?

moved a few foot on the drive and it was obvious the brakes were binding (a lot). crawled underneath and slacked the handbrake cable off as I knew I'd already slacked the shoe adjuster off by more than 1.5 turns as suggested in manual.

climbed back in started up and tried again - brakes still binding? ...... turns out it was the brakes (not the handbrake)...brake switch was preventing the brake pedal from returning. pulled the brake pedal back up and all seems great. been for a drive and all is good. Except I'm reluctant to use the hand brake now in case it upsets something and I'm back to square one?

guess I'll have to use it at some point and if it does go wrong I'll have to consider either an x eng disc conversion or a complete new original item?

any how for now Thumbs Up
Post #401111 22nd Feb 2015 1:28pm
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Never mind
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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
If you are not happy about the effectiveness of your handbrake whatever you do, do not park on a hill unless you also put the vehicle in respective reverse or forward gear. To be honest I always do that anyway, seen to many cars career downhill through a defective hand brake. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Thank you.

Always leave in gear also.

Never had a issue over the effectiveness of the hand brake - it's always been more to do with it fully disengaging?
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Anyone able to either confirm below is ok or better still post a photo of theirs?



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Notice on the left shoe how the friction pad finishes a good inch plus from the end of the shoe unlike the right shod where the friction pad finishes close to the end of the shoe.

Had always thought that these shoes were same but clearly not?
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Think this might be a better photo



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I guess if the friction pad was longer it would stop the left shoe from migrating north and perhaps resolve the problem?
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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
I too have a slight trembling at 50-60 mph. i remember a noisy handbrake after a readjusting of it. The noise went away when slight pulling the handbrake an releasing it.
Could this be the same issue?


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