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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19611  
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It's probably been left standing for a fair while which Defenders really don't like, but it could possibly have been reverted back to the original map.
It depends on what the symptoms consist of really. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. β½οΈπ’οΈπ¨βπ§π§°βοΈ RED, WHITE & BOOST! π¬π§ |
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14th Nov 2013 7:12pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4784 
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If they did a software update when it was in then maybe it has been put back to standard?
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14th Nov 2013 7:33pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468 
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1st thing they do is plug the obd and update any bug fixes .
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14th Nov 2013 9:00pm |
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| Porny Site Sponsor Member Since: 31 Aug 2009 Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands Posts: 792 
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My local dealer didn't do that when in went in for warranty work - let alone in the body shop.
Most dealers will not do updates unless the customer complains... hence why 90% of the Defenders (especially) are on old software. They could have done an update, but not bothered to the pilot injection learn... or they have tried to do a learn and corrupted the file. Or It could just be the fact it hasn't run for a bit (Puma's don't like standing around for weeks)... IRB The home of the first modified Keswick Green 90 - and the first 2.4 Puma through both the 200bhp and 550Nm barriers. www.IRBdevelopments.com www.facebook.com/irbdevelopments www.integrated316.com www.facebook.com/integrated316 |
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14th Nov 2013 9:08pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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They do most certainly carry out upgrades without prior consultation as my experience and the link below will testify...
I had exactly the same happen when the Dealers decided to carry out Q068 software upgrade. Took me months for Autologic to sort out the gremlins and get the tune back into the ECU. I always instruct the Dealers NOT to carry out any software upgrades and leave a notice on the passenger seat and on the dash. "THIS VEHICLE HAS AN AUTOLOGIC REPROGRAMMED ECU THE REMAPPING WAS HISTORICALLY LOST WITH A LAND ROVER Q068 ECU SOFTWARE UPGRADE WHICH WAS DESPITE REQUESTING FOR THE UPGRADE NOT TO BE DONE. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS THE ECU TO BE REPROGRAMMED WITH ANY LAND ROVER SOFTWARE UPGRADES AS THIS WILL COMPROMISE THE AUTOLOGIC ECU REMAPPING. ANY QUERIES CONTACT THE OWNER ON **************. THANK YOU." I now run a different remap but still post a notice! http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7576.html?highlight=q068 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 14th Nov 2013 9:16pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Nov 2013 9:14pm |
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| dudley472 Member Since: 15 Nov 2012 Location: wolverhampton Posts: 96 
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it feels sluggish under acceleration, it seems to be holding back and a little jerky, I had the re map done virtually as soon as I had it so I didn't do many miles on the standard map and it was over a year ago and I can't really remember what it was like, it just doesn't feel right, I've been driving a new transit for the past 5 weeks which when I got in it felt pretty similar to the land rover in the way it delivers its power as it would I suppose so its not as if i'm going from a normal car back to the landy
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14th Nov 2013 9:15pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19611
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Could be the EGR a little glued up, is it doing it's cleaning cycle okay on shut down? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. β½οΈπ’οΈπ¨βπ§π§°βοΈ RED, WHITE & BOOST! π¬π§
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14th Nov 2013 9:17pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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If you can get the remap reinstalled especially as you suspect it's been erased and see how it runs.
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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14th Nov 2013 9:18pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468
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I have to tell mine the can is disconnected through the obd . I usually get a phone call around 10am otherwise
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14th Nov 2013 9:26pm |
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| defninety Member Since: 13 May 2010 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 37 
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What you're talking about a totally different scenario to that which Ian has mentioned. You are referring to is a known service action, whether or not you required this update is somewhat immaterial, a dealer has the justification to do it and get paid, it's a no brainer for them. There is a policy in place and dealers will not just update the engine calibration because it's gone in for some warranty work, quite simply because if they can't substantiate the reason for it, they don't get paid. Also, just to dispel a myth, not every update to the engine calibration is a good thing. People seem obsessed with having their vehicles updated because the assumption is a newer calibration must be better, my advise is, if it ain't broke, leave it alone. If there is genuinely a good reason to update these things, then LR will let you know! |
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14th Nov 2013 9:36pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Agree 100% with your last paragraph.....
From March 2010... If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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14th Nov 2013 10:08pm |
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