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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471   
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Amen  Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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16th Jun 2013 9:04am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264  
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£170 for a new drum !! - can that be right/ so if I get chance the weekend I'm considering taking the hand brake to pieces, if nothing else to give it a clean. am I likely to be wasting my time and if the drum isn't round, I'm guessing its only going to be a fraction out - enough to see ?? has anyone ever come across a problem with adjusting the brake too much other than having to lift the lever a little too far or the hand brake stopping the car from rolling ie if adjust the pads too far from the drum are they going to rattle or anything like that?? |
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21st Jun 2013 12:27pm |
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| chrisb Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dark Peak Posts: 25 
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Sort of.
No rattle, or anything, but lever rus out of travel before fully handbrake fully engages. Ie it will hold it on a slight slope, but not a steep one. Must remember to add that to the warranty list..... |
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21st Jun 2013 9:37pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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gonna try and find the time to have a go at it the w/e.
I'm thinking that the pads don't return very well / sometime sticking a little. will let you know what I find (it anything).  |
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21st Jun 2013 9:55pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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My transmission brake lever sometimes comes up a bit further than at others too. It's possible that the drum may have gone slightly out of true if the shoes [brake drums have shoes, discs have pads] have been rubbing causing the drum to heat up a lot but a fair amount of distortion would have to happen if this would result in huge discrepancies felt at the brake lever.
If you want to have a play strip the drum off and clean the interior [obviously taking care with the dust] then just follow the setting up and adjusting procedure outlined elsewhere on Def2. After this apply the brake fairly firmly two or three times to ensure that the shoes are centered and clearing the drum when the lever is released ....don't forget the chock the wheels! It's an easy job to back the adjuster off a bit if you find the shoes are found to be still rubbing. Alternatively whack it in under warranty - again. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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22nd Jun 2013 9:59am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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thanks Steve,
almost 3 years later and I've almost cracked it (with alot of help along the way to be fair). |
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22nd Jun 2013 10:12am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Limp through the warranty and then fit an X-Brake.
I have a good dealer now and even they can't get it perfect. When it makes a noise (clanking/metallic rubbing - usually when hot after a good run) just stop and pull the brake on then off. It may shut it up for a while. Unless it's jamming on whilst you're driving or the shoes are breaking up it shouldn't do too much damage elsewhere. Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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22nd Jun 2013 11:04am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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zedefender.
thank you for the suggestion on the x-brake. I see that as a last resort to be honest. I'm sure its very good and is probably the sensible option but I'd prefer to keep things as close to factory fit as possible but working (obviously). exceptions to this would be additions ie remap, steering guard etc but in terms of changing mechanical stuff the only things that interest me at the moment are the exhaust. (I hope that makes some sense). actually thats complete rubbish as I've been looking / thinking about upgrading the brakes |
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22nd Jun 2013 12:43pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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... and so it begins
 Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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22nd Jun 2013 3:28pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Nowt wrong with standard brakes on a standard vehicle. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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22nd Jun 2013 3:41pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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do think they're alright?
I always feel they've got bite. I'm looking to race my Def but all the same when I occassionally have to pull up a bit sharp I've no confidence in doing so (might just be that I've never owned such a heavy vehicle). that said I don't remember having that feeling in the 7.5t flatbeds I used to drive?? wasnt thinking £3k on some 6 pot AP's but thought there might be something inbetween? |
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22nd Jun 2013 4:14pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Take it out onto a quiet straight stretch of road and stomp on the brakes hard and you should pull up pretty smartish. I sometimes tow with mine [and previous Defenders] and have never felt the brakes put me at a disadvantage. You can't really compare them to the bigger [air] brakes on a 7.5 tonner as they're not like for like
 Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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22nd Jun 2013 4:20pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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If my brakes were any better the seat belt would cut me in half - like MOG says, get up to 60 on a quiet road and stand on the brakes. For a 2 tonne vehicle, it stops pretty quick... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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22nd Jun 2013 5:54pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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I'll give them a go .....
in the meantime I'm just about to have a go at the hand brake......just been having a look and the prop looks like the one end is telescopic ??? if it is does than mean I won't need to disconnect both ends to get it away from the hand brake drum? |
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22nd Jun 2013 7:50pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Sorry - you do (at least on my 110) - there isn't quite enough play to get away with it. A cruel joke by LR perhaps 
p.s just like the prop grease nipples - there isn't quite enough space to use a "normal" adapter  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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22nd Jun 2013 8:31pm |
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