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Arsath

Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Sri Lanka
Posts: 133

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Fuji White

Puma 2.4 2009 Starts on 2nd,3rd or 4th try

Hi Folks,
I am having a very strange issue with my Puma 2.4 lately. The car takes too many tries to start, but most definitely it starts.

When it's been idling for let's say longer than a day the issue worsens.

When I crank the engine it makes this painful noise.
Have a listen

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/VNPf9

What could be the problem?

My battery is brand new, I checked the terminals and they are snugly fit.

Anything else I should check?

Also I have done the basic BAS Remap and disabled the EGR. (can't think how it could be related anyway)

Please help..

3rd Nov 2021 2:38pm

carrotbay

Member Since: 18 Aug 2013
Location: Northants, UK
Posts: 695

2008 Defender 110 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel XS CSW Auto Santorini Black

That is an odd noise! .. I had a similar issue and checked battery etc. Eventually it let me down completely and wouldn’t turn over at all. I ended up changing the starter motor and haven’t had an issue since.

3rd Nov 2021 3:14pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3218

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Sounds like the bendix is slipping (part in the starter). 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

3rd Nov 2021 3:19pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 375

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

yep, I'd be putting a new starter on that.

3rd Nov 2021 3:48pm

Arsath

Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Sri Lanka
Posts: 133

Gents, one thing that I forgot to mention was, I have also fitted a Push Start unit, I was sick and tired of the ignition unit and decided to altogether ditch it for electronic push start..

Anyone think that could faulty?

3rd Nov 2021 7:14pm

Ianh

Member Since: 17 Sep 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 1796

Have a look at this, worth checking the new starter button connections as well.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56604.html

3rd Nov 2021 7:33pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 375

Arsath wrote:
Gents, one thing that I forgot to mention was, I have also fitted a Push Start unit, I was sick and tired of the ignition unit and decided to altogether ditch it for electronic push start..

Anyone think that could faulty?

Yes, that could definitely be (part of) the problem.

Over the years I've always found that in car systems (electrical and mechanical) any non standard parts or non standard configurations have a higher chance of being the source of any problems. Even high quality parts that have been fitted to a high standard.

So, if there's anything non-standard in the system, I'd certainly be checking (and double checking) that as soon as possible.

4th Nov 2021 10:14am

Arsath

Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Sri Lanka
Posts: 133

Click image to enlarge
Hopefully found the issue..

6th Nov 2021 12:48pm

Arsath

Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Sri Lanka
Posts: 133

Thanks everyone for all your advise.. Changing the starter motor brushes solved the problem.

7th Nov 2021 8:21pm

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