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alantd



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Puma vs Toyota
I love this guy! Genius.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptiE501ZdwM&feature=channel

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMhOhT5nwZk&feature=channel One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #7910 2nd Mar 2009 9:33pm
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kljw



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So,
all of us out here that have jsut bough a defender, have we bought the wrong vehicle? Cheers
keith
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Post #7917 3rd Mar 2009 8:27am
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Glynparry25



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Well, as you watch it the defender out performs the Toyota, but at the end he picks the Toyota- maybe because it is his own wagon?

At the end of the day it is his choice, and that is what he wants in a car. Personaly it is Land Rover all the way for me.

Glyn
Post #7930 3rd Mar 2009 1:16pm
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kljw



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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Auto Santorini Black
i will have to agree with that, land rovers all the way. Cheers
keith
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Post #7934 3rd Mar 2009 1:31pm
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
I think if you asked anyone that had just bought something whether they made the right choice they'd say "yes" so it is unsurprising that he went for the Toybota.

Conclusion seemed to be:

LR:
Better articulation
Benefits from having rear coils (we've known this for years)
Better ground clearance
Better up hill on the rough stuff
Better seats (and dash IMO)
Better for adding bits to

Toybota:
Better down hill (I've heard about that anti-stall issue but it was very interesting to see)
More airy driving and rear seating
More accessible load bay
More dust proof (as those of us who spend time on trails will attest)
Better on-road characteristics

As he concludes, not much in it. He likes the everyday driveability of the Toybota. Personal opinion but it completely reinforced just how good the Defender is for me! One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #7936 3rd Mar 2009 1:56pm
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Eduardo



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Well,

At least here in Chile I didnt had too much option when bougth the Defender (Toyota Land Cruiser doesnt exists here Mr. Green )
By the way, if I understand well, the big difference appear to be in the tarmac, in the off road my sensation in the article is that the Defender is better than The Land Cruiser except in some cases (i.e. descend).

In our case if the car can do well in the Tarmac no problem, we are not seeking a van. The second row is also no problem (our daughters are sit there with an spectacular view) As I allways said for us have a Defender is a compromise between the family car to use everyday and the rough car to go anywere. May be for others like the presenter the tarmac driveavility will be more important.

Cheers! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #7937 3rd Mar 2009 2:01pm
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
agreed.

I guess if you're overlanding then tarmac is also important. That said, I use mine extensively on tarmac and I have no complaints.

Off road, the Defender seems to be better (apart from the seals). One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #7939 3rd Mar 2009 2:09pm
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fekete



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Also with the Defender you've got Looks and the street cred,
well better than jap crap Laughing NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #7942 3rd Mar 2009 3:02pm
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shorty



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I cant stand this guy. I wonder if he would still be able to talk if you chopped his hands off? Land Rover's don't leak oil, they simply mark their territory!
Post #8384 13th Mar 2009 8:03am
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AndrewS



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Difference for me is. The Land Rover is warranty covered for off road use, and the Toyota aint.
Post #8388 13th Mar 2009 9:54am
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discocuzzy



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I like the toyota....good motor..just remember chaps that if jag/landy go under...at least we have a viable option Thumbs Up

Granted doesnt look as good but still ticks all the boxes...4.2 diesel.....nice Mr. Green You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
Post #8389 13th Mar 2009 10:03am
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
If jag/LR go under then I'm swapping a 300 TDi into my 110 and will keep it going myself Thumbs Up One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #8392 13th Mar 2009 11:01am
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shorty



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South Africa 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Chawton White
Defender 2.4 tdci rescues a Landcruiser.

This video is brilliant. I love the sound track. Land Rover's don't leak oil, they simply mark their territory!
Post #8398 13th Mar 2009 12:00pm
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shorty



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South Africa 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Chawton White
 Land Rover's don't leak oil, they simply mark their territory!
Post #8399 13th Mar 2009 12:01pm
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Glynparry25



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discocuzzy wrote:
I like the toyota....good motor..just remember chaps that if jag/landy go under...at least we have a viable option Thumbs Up


Only problem is that TOYOTA is in a worse financial possition than L/R JAG.

Glyn


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