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| HK07 Member Since: 15 Dec 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 746   
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There is one here at Goodwood today racing around the track. Went by me at a hell of a rate of knots.
PRE PRODUCTION MODEL written on the front apparently 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned. 1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned. 1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned. |
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4th Jul 2019 9:48am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2597  
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spotted at the Goodwood Festival:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzfR7MUH-m6/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BzfLunRnKsk/  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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4th Jul 2019 12:28pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2597
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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4th Jul 2019 12:40pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1807  
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Looking at that I'd say there is still a hell of a lot of cladding under that camoflague vinyl..... 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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4th Jul 2019 1:59pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16892 
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How can they call it a "global debut" when (a) it is still in camo and (b) it's been seen in this form for months? The commentary is a load pf piffle too. |
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4th Jul 2019 3:17pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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This long, long, drawn out peek a boo, drip, drip debut is a real turn off. Nothing but BORING marketing bull-hype. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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4th Jul 2019 4:22pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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I still live in another world.
A world where all this drip-feeding of Discovery lookalikes and yet another SUV to add to all the other SUV's, is just a giant con by JLR. A world where they pull back the curtains in September and reveal the actual Defender replacement, which looks totally different to these images - and has been developed to accurately fill the gap that Defender has left. A world where real Defender users and owners are knocked backwards at how JLR have got it completely right. I may be alone in my world, but I like it more than this yours.  |
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4th Jul 2019 5:04pm |
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| kaney Member Since: 01 Oct 2018 Location: Bolton Posts: 232 
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4th Jul 2019 6:50pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Meanwhile, back in the real world 
 Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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4th Jul 2019 7:04pm |
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| kaney Member Since: 01 Oct 2018 Location: Bolton Posts: 232
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It will be very interesting on what the values of our Defenders will be when the new ones go on sale I guess those at silly money ie 50k up will take a big hit if the new ones start at 40k not sure about the ones under 30k may keep their price or depreciate as we buy any car would price
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4th Jul 2019 7:38pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3465  
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I was there today too. Mixed feelings. Front looks D4. Rear door and roofline looked a fair attempt at a Defender.
Interesting I was with two non LR mates who would be in the earning bracket to buy one. They both loved it and were dead interested. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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4th Jul 2019 7:46pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2525 
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I see JLR have put the token recovery point at the part of the vehicle that gets buried in the mud, and there is only one so that you can't add a bridal to share the recovery load. At least the DC100 had the right idea. Best 4x4 belongs to the Jeep Wrangler now. Perhaps Jeep should sue JLR.
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4th Jul 2019 8:17pm |
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| fisha Member Since: 17 Mar 2012 Location: Vegas, Scotland Posts: 33 |
And there you go ... sorry folks, but thats the real truth about it ... and it would appear that LR know their target market. ------------------------------- I miss my V8's.... |
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4th Jul 2019 9:24pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
If Land Rover new there target market , the Disco 5 would be a roaring success ,
Truth is they do not . Discovery gave them volume sales to grow and then introduced the very successful Freelander , This became the biggest selling suv in Europe ! Oh and then it all went pear shaped due to quality and poor engineering and they decided to go upmarket , and now look at them , lots of the same suvs in different sizes and there sales are dwindling globally . We can buy Chinese built vehicles new with 7 year warranties in Australasia , Imagine a 7 year warranty on a JLR product , They would be finished ! In fact in Australia recently they have just lost a massive court case against a couple who spent 150000 ossie dollars on a new Range Rover that was a dud and JLR would not take the vehicle back , they sued and won , the judge declaring the vehicle not fit for purpose and JLR had to pay out over 600000 dollars to the couple . Volkswagen are now using the JLR case as education to there dealer network , how not to do things . I hope the new Defender is successful but it appears to be same old same old modern Land Rover . Too many suspensions parts , electronics etc . My Disco 4 is an amazing vehicle but to be honest a modern vehicle should not cost what this thing has cost me to keep on the road yet my 300tdi Disco and Defender just keep plodding on . I look at that suspension under the new Defender and cringe knowing what lower control arm bushes and compressors have cost me on my Disco . JLR are blaming their problems on brexit , We all know it is quality and engineering . Is this new Defender going to be any different ???????? . |
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5th Jul 2019 2:06am |
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