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bunnyman



Member Since: 29 May 2013
Location: herts
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England 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green
LEG SPACE !!!
Hi All
Has anybody removed the bulk head behind the front seats( defender 90)to give some more leg room if so was it worth it and did you have to replace steering wheel as well for a smaller one?
kind regards Bunny
Post #426759 27th May 2015 10:56pm
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SS90



Member Since: 16 Nov 2013
Location: Uk
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United Kingdom 
I'm in the same predicament, don't particularly want to remove it, but think I'm going to have to. Although think I'd opt for the mid conversion bar that they do.
Post #426780 28th May 2015 1:04am
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JDH



Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Horsham
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
I have the Mud bulk head removal bar (Mid Height) paired with some Mud seat rails, I fit the seat rails in every Defender i have but the previous owner of my 90 fitted the bulk head removal bar and to be honest I never would of bothered as it seemed expensive and pointless but now I've sat in one with it done i think its one of the best things you can do for comfort!. It makes a huge difference, I'm about 6 ft 4 and with this setup, i still don't have my seat all the way back, probably still another 3 inches to go back before hitting the bulk head.

Highly recommend. Thumbs Up
Post #426798 28th May 2015 7:31am
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munch90



Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
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England 
yes agree , best mod you can do to give more room
Post #426799 28th May 2015 7:40am
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Buwster



Member Since: 26 Jun 2014
Location: Fgura
Posts: 35

Malta 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Java Black
Did the MUD removal bar when i bought the Landy and makes a huge difference. One of best mods, one can do. Steering is another mod that makes a big difference but until know I did not do this mod so I cannot judge Smile
Post #426805 28th May 2015 7:53am
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Mean Green



Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
Location: South Ayrshire
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Scotland 
Sorry to hi-jack the thread but I have a set of mud-rails that I will be posting in the For Sale section, as soon as I can get them photographed - probably at the weekend. If any one is interested drop me a PM.
Post #426829 28th May 2015 9:57am
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bunnyman



Member Since: 29 May 2013
Location: herts
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England 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green
thanks for all your help and advice will try the seat raisers and sees how i get on
bunny
Post #428313 3rd Jun 2015 1:00pm
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K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Don't think the risers alone will be of any benefit as they are designed to raise the seat rails to move the seat further rearwards. The removal of the bulkhead I believe facilitates this as the reclined back of the seat will go beyond where your current bulkhead is with the bar fitted in lieu of the bulkhead.. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #428334 3rd Jun 2015 2:25pm
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Merlin



Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
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Move the handbrake and you can open your legs wide, now for the salacious comments.

There is a thread on here that explains how, I used it and the new handbrake position should have been standard years ago.

Merlin
Post #428347 3rd Jun 2015 3:07pm
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amondeggs



Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Telford
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Woodcote Green
I second the relocation of the hand brake Thumbs Up

i purchased a range rover hand brake and fitted so that is sits at the side of the cubby box,

i also have the mud risers and bulk head removal system. Very Happy

just done 2100miles over 9 days through Pyrenees and found it all very comfortable Thumbs Up
Post #428407 3rd Jun 2015 7:34pm
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Daz



Member Since: 10 Aug 2014
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Java Black
YEP , Did this mod when first purchased the 90 with the mud bar , I'm 6;2"and it made a massive difference with standard seat rails and steering wheel. Cut out old bulkhead with grinder took a couple of hours just make sure you cover interior up aluminium fillings get everywhere.. cheers daz ..
Post #428429 3rd Jun 2015 8:52pm
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sparkylee



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2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Santorini Black
Another vote for relocating hand break Thumbs Up

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Post #428757 5th Jun 2015 12:17pm
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bunnyman



Member Since: 29 May 2013
Location: herts
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England 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Galway Green
Hi all
just by removeing the dog guard has given me more room will try the seat risers today
thanks all
Post #428957 6th Jun 2015 8:15am
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pumaxs



Member Since: 18 Jul 2012
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Hi Bunnyman,

I'm 6' 4" & could happily drive my standard spec. 300tdi 90 CSW (with bulkhead + dog guard) without any problems.
The back rest hit the bulkhead when the seat was set as far back as possible, so removing the dog guard didn't make any difference to me.
It's the Puma dash layout that really kills the available legroom.
Even with the seat set fully back on a standard 110 SW (so no bulkhead) there was nowhere near enough legroom for me.
I had two pairs of Mud Seat Rails delivered direct to the Dealer, for fitting prior to collection, and they made all the difference in the world.
In fact, I do not use anywhere near the maximum available seat adjustment when driving, or seated as a passenger.
Although the ability to be able to push the seat even further back is a great option for more comfortable rest stops.
As others have said, including Mud UK's own website, you only gain a little bit of legroom by fitting the seat rails alone.
The only other modification I've made is the fitment of Mud UK's Flexible Grab Handles, in order to gain a bit of extra width.
I've not felt the need to change the standard steering wheel, as it does not hinder me.
However, it might be beneficial if you have a bit of a belly!! Laughing
Hope this helps. '57 Defender 110 XS Station Wagon 2.4tdci
Post #429166 7th Jun 2015 9:44am
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Stef 110



Member Since: 25 May 2015
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Belgium 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White
I am collecting a brand new 110 Hardtop next week and I was wondering if there is the same amount of leg space in a 110 as in a 90? Anyone who has an idea?
Post #429168 7th Jun 2015 9:53am
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