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landy andy



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AC fan running when not requested
Got an issue where my AC fan is running when my AC isn’t being used (don’t really use the AC).

I know the fan can be used to cool the engine if the ECU thinks the engine is too hot, so gets the AC fan to help, but mine is coming on as soon as I start the engine, even when minus temps. Most of the time I can then briefly run the AC, then when I turn off the AC the fan also turns off, and I think that is it till next time.

Drove a couple of hours Friday and when I got to destination AC fan running. My engine temps never even get to mid position, and all cooling system runs well. Today on way back stopped at fuel station after an hour, and fan running. This time operating the AC, then AC off, doesn’t stop the fan running. Pulling the relay did though.

Any thoughts?
Post #1061148 23rd Feb 2025 4:26pm
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MadTom



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Take a diagnostics equipment and look for faults in engine ECU. Probably some logged overheat fault. Clean it. This is standard TD5 behavior to switchnon the electric fan after overheat to protect the engine. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #1061187 23rd Feb 2025 11:04pm
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I can confirm as I've just had this on mine after a full rebuild. I must have had the ignition on at some point with the coolant sensor unplugged.

Any fault relating to the cooling system will make the ECU request AC fan until the fault is cleared. Erased all of the faults on mine and no more constant fan Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Post #1061258 24th Feb 2025 7:56pm
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landy andy



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Thanks both for your input, but not the case for me. No faults showing on nanocom had checked it before but just checked again, and still clear.

Typically though, no fan running today.
Post #1061311 25th Feb 2025 11:47am
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landy andy



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Noticed it running again today. Checked nanocom. Not ecu faults. But nanocom shows AC Fan requested. Even though all switches off.



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Post #1062048 5th Mar 2025 10:33am
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TexasRover



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There was a very recent discussion here I recall where a person had the AC fan running without there being a demand and it was concluded that after an overheat event the ECU plays it safe and kicks in the fan. I think was resolved by clearing the codes.

Does not explain the compressor though so maybe not going to be that simple.
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landy andy



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Yes. That is correct, but I have no codes, and temps all read ok.


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Post #1062096 5th Mar 2025 7:39pm
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bankz5152



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Your coolant temp switch connected/working correctly?

The AC fan will come on if the ECU thinks theres even a chance of over heat, inc if the coolant switch is broken/ not connected.
Post #1062103 5th Mar 2025 8:33pm
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landy andy



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Yep temp gauge and temp on nano both all good.
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I had this recently and it was a dry joint in the air con control box that sits behind the 2 switches, I stripped the unit and re-soldered the joints and it was sorted.
But even if there isn't a fault showing in the ECU, clear the faults anyway, if it was an overheat it doesn't show a code but needs clearing to stop it.

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landy andy



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Interesting read. I’ve cleared the no code, and no change, so possibly the dry joint as you’ve had.

Did you get any pics of it whilst you were fixing it??

How easy is it to get too??
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Remove the speaker under the switch panel and you should be able to see it. Reach in and unclip it. Then gently pull on he wiring loom and reach in and unplug it.

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landy andy



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Finally got fed up with fan running nearly permanently. Spent some time trying to track down best price for replacement relay/circuit board/AC Control box. Anywhere that was a lower price, no stock and not available. Finally stumped up £183 for a copy (Britpart) version being far far cheaper than the LR one.

Came really quickly and well packed but is a very cheap looking black box. But on disassembly of it the circuit board is exactly the same as my original LR, same manufacturer and part numbers.

Just plugged it in, and for the first time in ages, no fan running, and AC still works.

Cant see anything wrong with the original but I’m not an electronics type guy.

But fingers crossed
Post #1072065 23rd Jul 2025 2:05pm
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