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| Romadog Member Since: 07 Jul 2011 Location: Powys Posts: 1746  |
Surely to recover correctly then equal pull should be applied to each chassis rail, hence two shackles
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13th Nov 2011 1:35pm |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
There are two shackles on the guard, only one is pictured in the prototype but you can see the thread for the other shackle on the other side.
Drawing with two shackles mounted.  Click image to enlarge One shackle fitted. Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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13th Nov 2011 1:40pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2874 
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Sorry shackles still mm I would like to see one of those brackets after a snatch pull ??? some on here have too much money
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13th Nov 2011 2:17pm |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
I really don't know why there is so much issue over the shackles as they don't come with the guard or shackle mounts. The reason being they are over a £100 each from RUD direct as they are tested and certified lifting equipment. As I said earlier, any M16 threaded shackle will fit.
I will be fitting the RUD shackles on mine when I get one simply because that is what the guard has been designed to use on the recommendation of Engineers more qualified in stress loads than me. Simples. 
As to money, you have to spread the wealth...........  |
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13th Nov 2011 2:33pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2874
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Give me some
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13th Nov 2011 2:35pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240 
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Argh, yes! I meant 8000lbs rather than kgs 
Nothwithstanding my unit mix-up, the point still stands though - a combined rating of 3000kgs is still light for a loaded 90, let alone a 110. All rated hardware of this type includes a safety factor but it's not good practice to rely on it by choosing something under-rated for the expected loads in the first place. In practice, of course, I realise that unless you're doing extreme challenge events, those sorts of loads probably won't be experienced by the vast majority of weekend off-roaders, so for most it's a moot point. My bigger concern is the positioning, which IMHO is too low down making it both difficult to get to and vulerable to impact damage. Don't get me wrong though - as Mike mentioned earlier, it's clearly very well put together. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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13th Nov 2011 5:03pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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That's cool Bri as long as you only use them for towing, NOT recovery. Give me anchors on/to the chassis even for towing, much safer. A fully loaded 110 can nearly top 4 tonnes. and RD - I'll try to buy local where I can but ultimately I'll choose the right product for the job, I don't care where it's made. and buying german made hardly helps the UK, if I buy something from a uk retailer which is made in china, that's fine by me. If I thought an Entreq product was right for the job I'd have it though but from what I see, Entreq is Landrover Gucci. |
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13th Nov 2011 5:20pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Yes it looks attractive and very nicely made
My Southdown guard is all steel and bolted to the steel chassis  I agree that these guards can scoop stuff into the engine bay on certain reverse recovery situations. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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13th Nov 2011 5:21pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2874
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I had a southdown guard on one of my 90s and i used to jack up from it with a trolley jack ,Southdown are no more i hear ??
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13th Nov 2011 6:10pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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And another thing (on a grumpy roll now
), lots of people are so quick get steering guards, but not so quick (if ever) to get fuel tank guards when the tank is more likely to be damaged on rocks than the steering. I have a brand new one for sale at a good price yet no takers which I find most odd. |
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13th Nov 2011 7:29pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8578
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Following Mikes post on our red 110 we have standard fuel tank guarded by a Southdown guard. The wing tank it is not possible to get an aftermarket tank guard. Solution double bottom it.
Black 110 has a 120 litre main tank plus a wing tank. Not possible to get after market tank guard for 120 litre fuel tank. Solution double bottom it and double bottom wing tank. Yes it is possible to get equipment purpose built to meet your needs. Yes there is good gear out there, yes you can get gear made to suit YOUR needs. Good gear is available to suit YOUR NEEDS Just remember only buy cheap if you can afford it as you may well be buying it again and again........ Brendan |
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13th Nov 2011 7:45pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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I agree with the meet your needs thing Brendan. My point is that people who are quick to get steering guards are less quick to get tank guards - it's a case of "right, I've got a defender, I need 1) a steering guard, 2) a hi-lift jack, 3) a split charge (without actually thinking about what theyre going to use the vehicle for)
Perhaps I'm being unfair, but you get the idea. |
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13th Nov 2011 7:54pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8578
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OK we may be getting OT but personally I have argued needs over wants for a long time.
People sometimes get bemused when I ask them do YOU actually need a roof rack/winch or other expensive bit of kit. Needs and wants are different things then there is budget. Remember I sell kit! Roof bars can be cheaper, lighter and more suitable for just mounting a roof tent on. The high lift jack in my opinion is the most over rated and incorrectly used piece of kit going. A bottle jack, folding axle stand will do what MOST people use a high lift for and much safer, also cheaper as well
Likewise a decent shovel is the most under rated bit of kit going. I am not talking about the folding camping shovel either Carefully consider YOUR NEEDS and your budget and ensure that you get a good bit of kit which meets your needs. If you can not afford that bit of kit that you need then consider saving for next 2/3 months or more to get it. Buy cheap pay twice over. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Brendan |
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13th Nov 2011 8:30pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456 
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£500 thats a front winch nearly 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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13th Nov 2011 9:32pm |
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