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jim4244



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Panel / hatch under dash
Hi all

In the passenger footwell on a Puma there is a hole under the dash which I assume is for the fuse box on LHD models? I assume that there should be some sort of cover or panel that fits on this cut out section? Anyone know what its called or a part number as I have looked all over the internet and cant find one OR is it designed to not be covered?

Jim
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hank



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Dinnu



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There are 2 covers under the dash, driver and passenger side. Both should be there. I think same part number, YQH500300, but not 100% sure, maybe you can check with the one that you have that fits either side.

I do not think that Shopee ships to Europe... but I know what my suitcase will be filled with on my next trip to Malaysia Rolling with laughter Then deal with customs later Rolling with laughter .

https://shopee.com.my/Land-Rover-Defender-...f94a2388ac 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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jim4244



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Dohhh! Thanks guys👍

Jim
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macfrank



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I'm glad there are two (they are the same) because the MOT guy damaged one of the flimsy "hinges" Rolling Eyes Now I remove it before MOT and they think I'm being courteous Laughing
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Dinnu



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I also broke one side of the hinge pins on the cover. And I was being extremely careful removing the cover as wanted to plug an obd reader and get values while driving. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1032611 24th Apr 2024 6:13am
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jim4244



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Bloody hell! They are £75 each! Shocked

Jim
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Dinnu



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Yup, insane. Hence my teaser with the Shopee link in my first post. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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blackwolf



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macfrank wrote:
I'm glad there are two (they are the same) because the MOT guy damaged one of the flimsy "hinges" Rolling Eyes Now I remove it before MOT and they think I'm being courteous Laughing


Why would your MOT guy go anywhere near the cover? What was he doing to necessitate it?

He shouldn't be touching the cover for an MOT test, so send him the bill for a new one.
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macfrank



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uh? They plug in their test equipment (OBD port), measuring exhaust parameters / controlling revs, and brake deceleration. How do they do it in the UK?
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blackwolf



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UK MoT test doesn't require OBD access, and in fact the tester isn't allowed to remove any panels or covers during the test (other than bonnet, doors and filler flap).

Your mention of "MOT" made me.think you were UK but clearly you're not.
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macfrank



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Sorry for the misunderstanding, blackwolf. It's the German TÜV for me, but you can't even spell that Wink

It's interesting to hear MOT doesn't use the ODB port. Since OBD was introduced because of exhaust regulations I thought they'd always had to diagnose if all exhaust-related systems work as they should. My TÜV report states "0 exhaust-relevant errors in fault memory".

So MOT manually revs the engine to do the tests? Here it's done by the test computer which also reads out engine temperature (has to be >80°C), idle rpm and max. rpm. Target values for the Defender are in the system and it compares actual values.
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Rosco



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Manual rev with a probe in the exhaust (if they are doing it correctly) 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
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Dinnu



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I wonder what the German TÜV would read if some of the exhaust related hardware is mapped out of the ecu?
Why I ask? Because locally, the test is more like the British MOT but there are rumors about including an obd connection as part of the test. And I have a 2.2 used in roads where I cannot reach 80km/hr let alone maintain it for a good few minutes. Nuff said. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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macfrank



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Good point. So far I know that no fault codes are allowed re exhaust systems. I'll try to find out more.
Also since 2015 they check for existence and fault codes of saftey ECUs/systems such as ABS, airbags (haha). This is mandatory for vehicles registered from 2012. New business model for them what with all the modern gadgets...
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