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Evil Elsie Member Since: 25 Feb 2023 Location: Cumbria Posts: 201 |
Hello folks,
Following on from my earlier post about the side windows I've got another related two part question; 1). I'm looking to replace the 'Tub to sides' seal on my 3 door van. Having a look at what's available and there's narrow foam strips for the ridiculous price of £40 (ish). These look to be what I have fitted currently. Then there's the YRM offering which looks perfect. I've had a few bits from YRM and they have been very good but I cannot/will not pay over £170 for two foam strips.... 😢. Does anyone know of a suitable alternative..??? 2). When I do finally get some seals and the time comes to fit them is there enough 'flex' at the top of the windscreen frame to allow the hardtop to be lifted enough to fit the seal...?? ie undo all of the tub to sides fixings, drop the headlining (again 😡 I might just refit the with Velcro) and then lift. The Hardtop pivoting at the front edge of the roof/windscreen. Many thanks as always, Dave. 2002 Land Rover 110 Td5 Utility 1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100L 1980 Yamaha RD 350LC 1976 Yamaha RD 400C |
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18th Nov 2023 9:40am |
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Evil Elsie Member Since: 25 Feb 2023 Location: Cumbria Posts: 201 |
**Bump**
Has anyone got any thoughts on either the types of seal available or how high I'll have to lift the sides..?? Thanks in advance, Dave. 2002 Land Rover 110 Td5 Utility 1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100L 1980 Yamaha RD 350LC 1976 Yamaha RD 400C |
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22nd Nov 2023 6:15pm |
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paul 123 Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: norwich Posts: 82 |
have a look at high density foam tape something like this https://www.screwfix.com/p/stormguard-extr...lsrc=aw.ds
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22nd Nov 2023 6:30pm |
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landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5641 |
I fitted oe Land Rover seals. I still covered them with Tiger Seal to make sure they sealed. In future I would use a foam and rely on the PU sealer.
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22nd Nov 2023 8:37pm |
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Evil Elsie Member Since: 25 Feb 2023 Location: Cumbria Posts: 201 |
That's good to know - thank you for the replies...👍👍
I think I'll have a go at temporary sealing with some mastic type stuff (masking tape is a good shout - I know I'll get the stuff everywhere...😄). Then, maybe in the Spring time I'll change the seals. That'll give me plenty of time to research (Google 😄) possible sealing materials and I'll report back on here..👍👍 Cheers, Dave 2002 Land Rover 110 Td5 Utility 1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100L 1980 Yamaha RD 350LC 1976 Yamaha RD 400C |
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22nd Nov 2023 11:22pm |
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Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2076 |
Any chance of a cheeky pic Si? Sounds a sensible ‘upgrade.’ |
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23rd Nov 2023 7:05am |
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donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841 |
I'd agree that the YRM stuff is pricey, but it's really well made. I used these with a friend's 'restoration' earlier this year. I wasn't paying for it so I have to say I didn't realise they were just as expensive as that.
These weren't available when I did my car eons ago, so I did just use strips of tape and tiger seal. But I also sealed the side/tub joint later on as described above. Just a couple of pics near the top of this page: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538-30.html Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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23rd Nov 2023 10:09am |
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Siwynne Member Since: 04 Nov 2016 Location: West lancs Posts: 578 |
I’ll get some at the weekend after a wash. it’s currently under about 2000 miles of motorway and tractor following grime |
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23rd Nov 2023 7:43pm |
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Siwynne Member Since: 04 Nov 2016 Location: West lancs Posts: 578 |
Did get to wash it so dirty will do
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25th Nov 2023 3:53pm |
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Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2076 |
That’s a really neat job Si - thanks for sharing.
I’ve got a tube of black ebt+ in the garage and am now thinking of doing the same as my original foam is past its best. I’ve got some corrosion around the corner ‘bobbin’ fixing, so I’ll sort that out first. I’ve been giving the seams/gaps a good clean and brushing with Dinitrol RC800 I had knocking about. Inside and out. Your gaps are more parallel than mine, so mine will need a fair bit of masking and might not look as good against the silver, but hey ho. Good call on the door seal too. I’ve got a new SP door I’m in the process of building up ready to swap and it crossed my mind to add some ebt+ at either end. Cheers, Will. |
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25th Nov 2023 5:11pm |
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Siwynne Member Since: 04 Nov 2016 Location: West lancs Posts: 578 |
Do it on a warmer day and leave the doors open after doing until it’s dry. If you close them the pressure can act like a pump and put lumps in the sealant facing outwards
Or open a window before closing all the doors |
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25th Nov 2023 6:19pm |
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Evil Elsie Member Since: 25 Feb 2023 Location: Cumbria Posts: 201 |
That's some serious inspiration right there Gents....
A tube of black ebt for the sides (and hopefully get it somewhere near as good as Si..) and a tube of white for the roof (as per Donalds post).. I was getting a leak from the side-to-side roof join but squirted some of that Captain Birdseye Crack Goo in there which has sorted it but I'm not sure how long that stuff lasts... Many thanks to all...👍😄👍 2002 Land Rover 110 Td5 Utility 1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100L 1980 Yamaha RD 350LC 1976 Yamaha RD 400C |
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25th Nov 2023 7:59pm |
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windy81 Member Since: 14 Mar 2018 Location: North Wales Posts: 311 |
a roll of expanding foam and tiger Seal. Belt and braces approach
https://www.screwfix.com/p/stormguard-jumb...lsrc=aw.ds |
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25th Nov 2023 9:59pm |
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Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2076 |
All good sound advice - thanks all.
Quite a lot of jobs that will have to wait until the temperature improves in order to get the best results. Or otherwise I’ll have to bite the bullet and clear out the garage to make room… |
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26th Nov 2023 10:07am |
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