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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410  
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Welcome to the forum
Start with your batteries health. How old is it, how discharged is it? Whilst you are there go around and make sure all the vehicle earthing points are in A1 condition. Bad earths can cause some weird problems. Hopefully that will sort out your problem and it is easy to do at home. |
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1st May 2023 9:33am |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77  
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New battery, new starter motor and new alternator.
It's from 2008 |
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1st May 2023 9:58am |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77
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Double check the earth's .
Thank you. |
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1st May 2023 10:00am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Ok that was quite the bill  Did you check the battery was charged before fitting? They do not always come 100% charged. Would be worth sticking it on a battery charger at least over night to make sure. Is your new alternator actually charging? It should be supplying about 14v at idle. |
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1st May 2023 10:16am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5983 
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Does it not start, or not turn over with the key?
What is your alarm/immobiliser light showing during this? |
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1st May 2023 10:50am |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77
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It doesn't turn it does a clicking sound .when you try to start it.
It flashes on a number of seconds. |
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1st May 2023 12:52pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2485  
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Did you try to bypass the starter solenoid? I did it several times on a 2.2. Cannot remember now where such solenoid is located on a 2.4 Puma 110" SW
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1st May 2023 4:03pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17886 
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The 2.4 solenoid is on the starter motor and is one of the most inaccessible parts of the 2.4 Defender. Changing the starter is an astonishingly unpleasant job, I'm sorry to say, since you really can't even see it.
If the starter relay (under the driver's seat) is activating and there is a live output to the solenoid, it is highly likely that the starter is faulty. If the relay is not activating the range of possibilties is wider, and includes the immobiliser. You can also try removing the starter relay and applying a 12V supply to the output termoinal to the starter solenoid. If the engine cranks, the starter is OK and the fault is in the energisation circuit or immobiliser. If it doesn't crank, it's time to change the starter. |
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1st May 2023 4:26pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2485
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A lot easier to start bypassing the starter relay.
Something like this. A paper clip does the job for a few seconds.  Click image to enlarge Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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1st May 2023 4:35pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2434
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On the immobiliser front, worth changing fob battery CR2032, just to clear that one off the list. Easy to do, just change battery in fob then shut door, press lock on the fob four times quickly, then unlock once to resync. Ps leave window down just in case of issue.
Note if red alarm light on instrument cluster has been permanently on, even with engine running, it’s telling you fob battery is low. Last edited by Ianh on 1st May 2023 4:37pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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1st May 2023 4:35pm |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77
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It was happening before l changed the starter motor, Alternator and battery.
Then l need to check a few things out to find out this problem. |
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1st May 2023 4:35pm |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77
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I bypass it as it shows here yes. Sorry what does show if it doesn't start . |
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1st May 2023 4:47pm |
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| Vmax Member Since: 29 Apr 2023 Location: Europe Posts: 77
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Going to change the battery of the fob. |
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1st May 2023 4:57pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17886
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In theory by doing that you are applying 12V to the solenoid, so the engine should crank (as I suggested in my last point). If it doesn't crank, then firstly check that you have 12V at one of those terminals, if you do then either you have a faulty starter, a break in the wiring between the relay and the starter, or a broken engine/gearbox earth connection. If you don't have 12V to the starter relay, check fuses and the the main ignition relay. |
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1st May 2023 5:10pm |
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