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| stew 46 Member Since: 26 Jan 2012 Location: Wadebridge ,cornwall . Posts: 561   
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I had signs of leaks on mine
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29th Mar 2022 9:42pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647  
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Okay so I took the 130 for a good drive , it drove normally for the first 15 minutes then the loss of power reappeared.
Out of gear the engine rev’d freely but the moment I put it in gear I struggled to get up the hill or accelerate on the flat in any gear. There was no burning smell this time. Checked all wheel hubs for signs of brakes sticking, they were all cool to touch, as was the handbrake drum. Diffs were warm but not hot either. The defender coasts along when out of gear so I doubt it’s the drive train . Turbo actuator appears loose if not very loose ! Will check the wiring looms for chaffing next. Had a new fuel filter and air filter on 27/01/22 It has a 170 BAS tune with BAS intercooler and EGR deleted. The only other possible lead is that there’s a reverberating through the floor at the low end of the rev range, in all gears. Almost like you ought to be changing down. Also clutch peddle seems lower than normal, possibly an inch or so lower than the brake ?! https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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5th Apr 2022 3:42pm |
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| Angus_Beef Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: Oslo Posts: 434  
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any codes? Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭
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5th Apr 2022 4:48pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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No sadly not ! https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/
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5th Apr 2022 4:49pm |
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| Angus_Beef Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: Oslo Posts: 434
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how old is the VCV? Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭
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5th Apr 2022 4:52pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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Funnily enough that was also replaced in January, with one from PF Jones . https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/
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5th Apr 2022 4:53pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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That’s all great advice, thank you.
Infact I did as you suggested and bypassed the clutch switch on my other defender, it eliminated the rev hang I had at the time ! I will test and see 👍🏼 https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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5th Apr 2022 10:23pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20912
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Good luck, and yes if you had a Rev hang then that would have been a failed clutch switch.
As you know, two options bypass or replace for that. It may trigger a DTC, but not always but that’s the only performance / electric mic link between the clutch and engine performance.  _\Hennessey|Venom| F5/___
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6th Apr 2022 1:56pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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I thought I would update where I’ve got to.
Having cleaned all sensors, checked brakes, tested the clutch on a steep hill, I was a little flummoxed as the symptoms started about 10 minutes into pretty much every drive. Took it to the local indy and he suggested it may be a blocked Cat . We took it off, had a look, it looked a bit gummed up so knocked it out and hey presto, there hasn’t been a problem since ! So no idea why it smelt like a burning clutch or sent the defender into a sort of limp mode after almost 10 minutes on every run but it did !! https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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26th Apr 2022 8:39pm |
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| stew 46 Member Since: 26 Jan 2012 Location: Wadebridge ,cornwall . Posts: 561
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Good you hopefully got it sorted
Stew |
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26th Apr 2022 10:13pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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Okay so bizarrely the 130 is having the same issues, the CAT was clearly not the issue and to be perfectly honest I’d have been extremely surprised if it had been !
I’m going to head towards the clutch / slave as being the culprit. Today driving on a 40 mile round trip it was struggling on occasion going up hills and even on the flat , particularly noticeable when changing up a gear. Having to blip the accelerator before changing and occasionally depressing and releasing the clutch for a second time to get a decent bite made it mildly better. The revs still don’t seem to relate to clutch slip but all of the other symptoms are there. I will report back. https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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6th Jun 2022 11:45am |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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Just to close this topic.
The clutch was indeed on it's way out but replacing it did not cure all of the issues. I decided to replace the VCV again, (last changed in January...why not) and hey presto, all back to how it should be. I'm more concerned as to why it may be munching through VCV's though. So there we go. https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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24th Jul 2022 7:24pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20912
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As Blackwolf suggested on here previously moisture in fuel can kill VCV’s. I know it was some poor fuel from a less well known fuel station that I had to use that finished mine off.
I had the original for many many years without fault, lacking top end power and having to overly accelerate is another symptom along with rough idle on the cold. Just cutting out is another usually just when pulling off at a junction or stopping in the most dangerous places! _\Hennessey|Venom| F5/___ ___\⭐️Lone|Star|State/___ ____\We|Will|Win/___ ____/🇬🇧🇺🇸\____ _//*⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰*\\_ |
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24th Jul 2022 9:04pm |
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| Bluericky Member Since: 26 Jun 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 647
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Yes seemingly always at a junction !
In fact it’s nearly always on occasions when one has been accelerating hard and then changes up a gear . Presumably the VCV is unable to operate fast enough to compensate when worn. Either way, I plan on keeping one in stock at all times in the “onboard essentials toolkit”, which is beginning to look quite substantial !! https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/ |
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25th Jul 2022 5:48pm |
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