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mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

110 Puma to M57 and 8 speed auto

My high mileage unreliable 2.4 had ruined one too many holidays so it was time to change the car, but i couldn't find anything i wanted to replace it for. Then i found out about the M57 conversion.....

I saw a video on youtube and a couple of days later met Marcus Williams who luckily (or unluckily for him) is only down the road from me. We hatched a plan, i bought a donor car and then.... lockdown. With too much time on my hands and Marcus keen to try something new we hatched a bigger plan and after a lot of work, I think it's kind of done.

Essentially a heavily tuned, late version M57, with a modified ZF 8HP70 mated to the LT230.

Approx 350bhp , 800Nm and 26mpg on a run with patriot roofrack, awning, family and camping gear. Multiple gearbox modes from slow slush box to fully manual DSG-esque shifts. Full operation of transfer box via carling switchgear.

Tying to get a short video up onto youtube, will follow...

Before conversion

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4th Oct 2021 10:21am

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2078

1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Pennine Grey

Nice, twin turbo and 8 speed auto ?
It's on my Christmas list but I suspect my budget will dictate an older version with the 6 speed auto.
Looking forward to the video 😁
Enjoy !
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

4th Oct 2021 11:10am

Smyles_

Member Since: 26 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 512

2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Cairns Blue

Re: 110 Puma to M57 and 8 speed auto

mata wrote:
800Nm

That's more than my big lump puts out stock

Stuart

Cummins 130 Build Thread
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04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone)
58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue

4th Oct 2021 12:37pm

ChrisCSL

Member Since: 10 Aug 2019
Location: Berks
Posts: 185

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Be really interested to hear how this goes. Hope you can share some approx costings so we know the ball park figure for this type of thing. If that's not too cheeky. Might be a route I want to look at also in the future.

Best of luck Mata with this exciting project.

4th Oct 2021 1:41pm

H3nry

Member Since: 08 Jan 2014
Location: Heathrow
Posts: 134

Nata,

Are you getting the twin-turbo M57?

4th Oct 2021 5:49pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7873

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

Sounds a great project! 350Bhp and 800Nm wow that sounds fun!

I look forward to seeing the video...

I'd be interested to hear a rough idea of costs too

James
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4th Oct 2021 7:46pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3615

I’m in!!

5th Oct 2021 6:03am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

Quick taster

5th Oct 2021 9:30am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

Answering a couple of questions;-

Firstly, the conversion is essentially complete.

This is a single turbo engine, chose for cost, simplicity and better fitment. The turbo has been rebuilt with a bigger billet compressor and machined compressor housing however.

Costs, I haven’t added up the total spent, much of it was collaboration / development with MW Machines, most of the finishing I did myself like wiring, auto console / cubby box, instrument pack display. I believe a turnkey conversion with 6 speed starts around 14k + vat but the question really is how longs a piece of string as I’ve also got rear and centre LSD upgrades, HD half shafts… the list goes on and you can quickly get carried away…!

5th Oct 2021 9:39am

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7873

Looks a very neat installed, especially like the display in the dash looks OEM. Does the D2 indicate gear? If so why does it start in D2 not D1 and is it me it did it skip D2 to D4 to D5? Just curious.

I look forward to some more oomph videos onces it;s all beded in

5th Oct 2021 10:48am

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3203

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Land Rover Automatic

Looks very neat already from the driver seat.

I think the D3 was hidden by the steering spoke. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

5th Oct 2021 11:06am

Smyles_

Member Since: 26 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 512

I like the T-Rex

Stuart

Cummins 130 Build Thread
Instagram

04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone)
58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue

5th Oct 2021 11:15am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

I've got the gearbox set up to set off in gear 2 in drive and sport, gear 1 in manual mode. Although gear 1 isn't quite as short as in the Puma MT82 manual box it is still very short. Gear 2 in the ZF8HP is between 1 and 2 in the Puma, which is perfect IMO for road driving - i would often set off ingear 2 with the manual box, which always felt a smidge too high.

It wouldn't have missed gear 3, i guess it was hidden by the steering wheel as suggested.

Thanks for the interest, will do another video when its stopped raining.

5th Oct 2021 11:37am

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

centreconsole, dash etc

5th Oct 2021 2:32pm

mata

Member Since: 24 Jan 2014
Location: Manchester
Posts: 148

Wet drive, gives an idea ...

5th Oct 2021 3:20pm

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