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trailbear



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Puma Servicing
Gents

Time for the annual service for my 2014 110 2.2 Puma, I have had a quote of £350 for a full service
From my local Indie.

I am quite capable of carrying out this service myself, however, as the vehicle so far has a full service
history I would like to keep that up.

I have had a look on the Opie Oils website and the full service kit comes in
at £150.00 using Shell Helix and Mahle filters.

Removing the cost of the service kit form the service charge I think that £200 is a bit steep. I am sure
That the cost of their service kit they use will be considerably cheaper for them to purchase.
Now I am aware that there is a cost of running a business ( rates / staff wages etc ) and that is built into the costs that are passed on to their customers but I am kind of thinking that £200+ is a fairly hefty charge for what it is!

Also are the Mahle filters original fitment on the Puma Defender, this is my first Puma hence the reason for the question.

Are the Sump plugs that Opie Oils supply any good or should I stump up and
buy Landrovers own one? ( dealer is 2-3 miles from the house )

Like I say I would be keen to keep up the service history hence the above post
Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
The Mahle filters are poor in my opinion, paper ends instead of plastic. The Mann ones don’t fit properly. For the small premium buy a genuine Land Rover or Ford one. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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boxoftricks



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I don't think the main dealer service history adds value to a vehicle as so many main dealers do such poor work.
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Ianh



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Agree on the oil filter, LR ones are good and not expensive in the scheme of things. Also LR sump plugs are only circa £3.50 and the air filter from Land Rover, albeit a fair bit more pricey than alternatives gets good reviews from tuners for its performance. Worth contacting dan at duckworths, site sponsor, to get a price for filters and sump plug.However the Indy will have an account with LR for discounted parts, the thing is they may bank that and charge you full price.
So you can insist on the use of Lr gen filters and plug supplying your own or getting them to, plus ask what oil they are using.
If it’s a basic service then it’s probably only an hours work for them, including checking other fluid levels, brake pads etc . They should grease props, hinges, Bonnet catch etc but I bet most don’t.

You say full service, but what mileage are you at as they may be including Transfer box, diff, brake etc fluid changes as well.
So ask what exactly they are quoting for when they say full service. That way you can understand how much time they are spending and the charge per hour they are making. Small Indi’s are circa £45-£50 per hour, dealers are circa £100, bigger indi’s are in the middle.
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trailbear



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The vehicles at 41000mls.
They are obviously the middle price wise.
They mention checking and topping up of the fluids definitely not changing them.

Really just looks like oil and filter change ( sump plug ) air and fuel filter / general health check.

The other alternative is it to take it the local garage ( not Indy ) that I have happily used for many years, supply him with
The service kit, let him do his thing and stamp the service book for an awful lot less. 🤔
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Angus_Beef



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Bluest wrote:
The Mahle filters are poor in my opinion, paper ends instead of plastic. The Mann ones don’t fit properly. For the small premium buy a genuine Land Rover or Ford one.


2014 2.2 should have the metal spin on filter Roaming around 🇳🇴🇨🇭
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Bluest



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👍 fair enough. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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blackwolf



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Don't forget that min dealers and probably most independents will also include a hefty charge for disposing of your old oil. I think the last time I had a main dealer service (more than a decade ago, thankfully) the disposal charge for the old oil was almost as much as the cost of the new oil.
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trailbear



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Yes I suppose there is the disposal element to consider, my local tip seems to have closed the
waste oil disposal tanks at the moment which is a bit of a bummer.
In the old days we used to use it to power the heaters in the garage but can’t do that now unfortunately.
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Ianh



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^^^^^^^^
Old engine oil, with a little diesel added makes a great fence treatment. Just don’t lean on it for a few months!

If you do use your local garage I’m sure there is now a way for them , or even you, to update your Land Rover online service history. Someone will know on here as I’m sure i’ve read that in a post.
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andydef90



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do you extend your warranty ? I extend mine but by a land rover approved independent agent green oval in Leeds
im asking as it could make a difference if you do . my 2014 plate 90 has has done 29000 and was serviced last month at 300 pounds including land rovers on line service history plus Ii asked for a full check on condition
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trailbear



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My vehicle was bought second hand so I don’t have a warranty with it

My local garage did update my online service history for me when he serviced my Mitsubishi pickup, this was after I refused to pay Mitsubishi £650 for it’s 3 yr service so I don’t see why he couldn’t do that for the Landrover
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corgi1



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DONT SHOOT ME DOWN BUT ....

whats the difference on an oil change if you either drop the oil via the sump plug or suck it out via the dipstick hole ???

Pete
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blackwolf



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Ianh wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Old engine oil, with a little diesel added makes a great fence treatment. Just don’t lean on it for a few months!
...


Stand by for a hefty fine on conviction if you do this nowadays, though. Sad
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blackwolf



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corgi1 wrote:
DONT SHOOT ME DOWN BUT ....

whats the difference on an oil change if you either drop the oil via the sump plug or suck it out via the dipstick hole ???

Pete


About £60 at a main dealer.
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