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| corgi1 Member Since: 26 Feb 2017 Location: bucks Posts: 440   
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29th Apr 2021 7:40pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3014  
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WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm. |
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29th Apr 2021 8:46pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997 
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The Puma drain plug has the amazing ability to fire the oil about 3ft horizontally which means positioning the drain pan is akin to those old black and white movies where a group of firemen with bedsheet would try to catch someone leaping from a burning building. Using the suction method should at least avoid that mess. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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29th Apr 2021 9:03pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16871 
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I don't really go for the dipstick tube method, I'd rather get the oil plus any sludge out of the low point of the sump. Plus if you have a magnetic drain plug you can recover the scrap metal from it, but it takes longer and is messier than finding a dipstick with a tube to do it.
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29th Apr 2021 11:05pm |
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| kmac Member Since: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Middlesex Posts: 1294 
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You could fit an oil drain valve to reduce the "oil shooting out from the sump plug hole" issue
Such as this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fumoto-F-106-LC-1...Z31Q2CM5XK Not sure if that fits but there are loads out there. I have the Femco one fitted http://www.drainplug.co.uk/compact_video.html |
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30th Apr 2021 8:55am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2070 
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I did an oil and filter change on the drive recently and can confirm that the Puma Oil drain hole will point the oil anyway but down ..
I understand that all landrover need to make their territory but this was a little excessive ! I also made a little error in buying the wrong oil filter as there are 2 types for the 2.2 ... mine was an early edition so needed the filter that goes in to the plastic cover so had to wait a few days for the correct one to be delivered .. Having said that,the job was simple even for my humble skill level and ordering oils and parts on line was an easy process, even if a little messy. As I am intending to keep the vehicle for a long term I am filling out the service book rather that tying to get this done on line. Next service will see me attempting to do the differential oils and grease the UJ’s ... slowly building up my skills !  Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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30th Apr 2021 9:02am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
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30th Apr 2021 11:06am |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 401
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Well, I see why the steep prices for Defender servicing, £105 for the discounted filter pack ( Landrover brand ) alone
And thats without the oil. So add the oil £50 - £100 ish depending on what oil is used and they certainly creep Up to the figures quoted 😳 |
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30th Apr 2021 2:40pm |
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| jpboost Member Since: 13 Apr 2021 Location: Gatwick Posts: 374 
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Totally agree.
If they're giving it a good check over alongside changing the oil/filters, then it should be on the ramp for the best part of 2 hours. Even at modest labour rates and trade parts prices, £350 isn't a vast amount of money for that service, particularly if that includes VAT (the OP doesn't mention VAT) Of course if they're changing the oil/filters, using cheapest possible parts and not checking anything else, then it does look to be rather expensive. |
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30th Apr 2021 3:35pm |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 401
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Yes it does include VAT and I will have to enquire as to the original Landrover filters.
Starting to look like that is the standard Indy price😳 |
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30th Apr 2021 3:57pm |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 401
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So, I am still deciding over whether to do the service myself or have my local chappie carry out the work with me supplying all the consumables.
I have always used quality oils and filters etc but what are the thoughts on the options from Opie Oils, one end of the scale is the Shell Helix ( most expensive ) or Millers Trident Professional ( cheapest ), what are others using? This is the first service under my ownership, all previous landrovers have had mechanical lift pumps, are there any tricks for changing the fuel filter on this vehicle, I normally fill up, the fuel filter before fitting but is there anything that should be done for the Puma when changing the fuel filter? Puma 2014 2.2. |
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1st May 2021 9:04am |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1757
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Re the oil. WSS-M2C-934-B Is the correct spec for a puma 2.2 as it has a DPF. Mine requires this and I have been using Millers XF Longlife C1 and it has performed very well over many years. Noting I change my oil every 6k miles anyway.. At £30 or less for 5 litres it’s a good price for a high spec oil.
Re fuel filter change, it’s less of an issue with the 2.2 due to the pump in the tank. I personally pre fill the filter with diesel, making sure the diesel is fresh and from a very clean container. You can also get a filtered funnel if hyper sensitive on the chance of getting contamination into the fuel system. Alternatively you can not pre fill the fuel filter but turn the ignition to II and leave for say 20 seconds, then repeat this a few times. This should fill the filter from the tank. Then start the engine. I have not done this but have read on here that its a method some use. |
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1st May 2021 10:12am |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 401
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Thanks, that exactly what I was looking for.
Like you I generally change the oil every 6 months. I have never personally used Millers oils But have heard others say good things about it. I will continue to fill the filter as you have described, just wanted to make sure it could still be done ( not really sure why you couldn’t ) |
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1st May 2021 10:38am |
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| trailbear Member Since: 14 Sep 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 401
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Can I ask where you buy the oil you have mentioned, Opie Oils have that but it
appears to be double the price you have mentioned 🤔 |
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1st May 2021 10:41am |
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