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| PCM Member Since: 25 Jan 2019 Location: North East Posts: 862  
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Does anyone have any up to date info in an m57 conversion to a tdci.
Toying with the idea of a conversion and the Ls3 seems a bit too mental. The Ford 3.7L Ti-VCT V6 seems to be an option but keep reading the m57 is everyone's ideal conversion if their engine was to go pop. Anyone done it? Anyone made it work with the puma? And anyone know if you can buy a kit? Or what parts and mounts are needed? Before you ask, no, my engine is fine and will be sold as a low mileage takeout. Let the fun begin.  |
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20th Apr 2021 9:19pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2626 
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My plan is to buy the kit from wiseman engineering...
I already have a galv chassis in stock to build it on and just swap the body but haven’t had the time... maybe next year I’ll be in uk enough to get on with it.  |
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20th Apr 2021 11:47pm |
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| Fabio Member Since: 05 Aug 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 589  
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That isn't too expensive. how much would the fitting cost?
Fabio |
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21st Apr 2021 5:57am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3615 
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I’ve been in touch with these guys recently, their prices start from £3500 with a 1 year warranty:
https://www.mkraftbmw.co.uk/serious-bmw-defender |
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21st Apr 2021 6:05am |
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| mwestcrew Member Since: 09 Dec 2019 Location: South Warwickshire Posts: 216 
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There is a Facebook group with loads of info in the pinned pages and people very ready to give help. Most of the companies that do parts for this conversion are members too.
Land Rover and others BMW engine conversions is the name of the group. 2011 130 Utility Body 2005 110 Van |
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21st Apr 2021 9:54am |
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| Inigo Member Since: 13 Nov 2011 Location: Kent Posts: 614 
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I've just had my third 2.2 engine fitted to my Defender and while I had investigated the M57 conversions, they all seemed to be based on fitting old engines. Most of those that I could find already had 150,000 miles on them.
Is there a source for new M57 engines? Also, a quick poke about the BMW forums suggests that BMW engines are just as capable of self-destructing as Ford engines. I decided to stick with what I know, but would be interested for next time. |
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21st Apr 2021 10:39am |
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| Smyles_ Member Since: 26 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 512  
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What horse power figure are you looking to get PCM? Only so that I know how much my fuel pump will need to be turned up
 Stuart
Cummins 130 Build Thread 04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone) 58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue |
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21st Apr 2021 1:28pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3615
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Is yours in with stagshaw Smyles? I spoke to them yesterday and they have one booked in for conversion in August.
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21st Apr 2021 3:55pm |
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| Smyles_ Member Since: 26 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 512
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Yeah the 130 at Stagshaw, soon to be Cummins is mine
Not sure who's the conversion booked in August is though. They have quite a few build/conversions booked with more and more enquiring now I believe. Just hoping I can be the first completed in the following several weeks to sport the 001 build number Stuart
Cummins 130 Build Thread 04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone) 58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue |
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21st Apr 2021 4:08pm |
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| PCM Member Since: 25 Jan 2019 Location: North East Posts: 862
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HP wise I'm not really sure. Pete's BAS remap made the world of difference to the 2.2 so another 100 on top of that would be awesome. Another 200+ on top and I think i'd end up in a ditch.
Want it to be fun but reliable. Just wondered what's currently out there professionally. Smyles_ I'm watching your build thread and loving the color choice. I want to be Stagshaw build no 007.  |
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21st Apr 2021 4:23pm |
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| mwestcrew Member Since: 09 Dec 2019 Location: South Warwickshire Posts: 216
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Take a look at 4x4Fabrication https://www.4x4fabrication.co.uk/
They do Cummins, LS, and BMW conversions. Very high standard of work. Inigo I see your point, it's can only get harder to find good M57 engines and a 150,000 mile BMW engine can just as easily go bang as a Ford engine. But the guys who have this conversion, particularly with the auto box say it is absolutely amazing. And there's always the Merc OM606..........!! 2011 130 Utility Body 2005 110 Van |
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21st Apr 2021 4:42pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3615
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I’m in a position of potentially sinking over £1000 into an engine that has already done 80k. The thing I’m am wrestling with is do I pay for the oil leak to get sorted and still have an 80k engine, or do I spend more on a recon M57 install? The last thing I want to do is plough a grand into this engine only for another problem to arise in a couple of months.
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21st Apr 2021 6:54pm |
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| mwestcrew Member Since: 09 Dec 2019 Location: South Warwickshire Posts: 216
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It is a risk. But how much is a recon M57? And you would probably need to buy loads of ancilliaries.
The demand created by this conversion has really pushed up the prices of used engines. I've been researching an engine swap for ages, I'd like to do the Ford 3.2 dCi from Ranger/Transit but the Transit engines are rare and it's hard to get the Ranger one running out of the vehicle apparently. 2011 130 Utility Body 2005 110 Van |
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21st Apr 2021 7:22pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3200  
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^^^ +1
I hope the puma is capable of more than 80kmiles. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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21st Apr 2021 7:41pm |
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