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mustafasoleiman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Indus Silver
2003 Td5 90
Good day, I have a 2003 Td5 90 and my wife drives it everyday for work... She is complaining that it is very tiring because of the noise etc... Still she loves it and it is right for her work.

To avoid having to get something else to replace the Defender what do you suggest can be done to make the car less noisy and tiresome?

Many thanks for your help in keeping wife and car happy together! (at least i get to drive it the weekends...

Alex http://instagram.com/h4vou/
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Alex, if you have a search for sound proofing you'll find dozens of threads with lots of useful stuff in them. The basic premise though is to add some mass to various panels (Silentcoat or similar) to stop vibration and then cover everything you can in self adhesive foam to absorb airborne noise. Here's a couple of posts in my own build threads to get you started:

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post622546.html#622546

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post637884.html#637884

https://www.defender2.net/forum/post711655.html#711655 Darren

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Post #895767 3rd Apr 2021 3:50pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
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Dave T



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
Is the clutch heavy, there’s a few different options available 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi
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bluebottle



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If gear changes are an issue plenty of people swear by slickshifts too.

A more expensive option, but worth it if not needing to tow etc., is to look at changing the gearing of the transfer box. I have done this and it effectively means the engine does fewer revolutions for the given speed = quieter engine noise.
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landy andy



Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
I found a remap makes driving a lot less tiring. Saves on changing gear so often and quietens engine at speed.
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Beero



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England 
I have a 2005 td5 90 van back and found a lot of noise was coming from the weight of the spare wheel rattling the back door. I removed it and strapped it to the back of the bulkhead temporarily and it quietened things a lot. I also put padding around things like the jack and wheel chock to stop them rattling. I don't carry heavy loads so lowered all the tyre pressures to 25 psi. I also put heavy duty rubber mat on the loadspace floor. I now don't feel the need to do the soundproofing that I was considering doing before.
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CRJ



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Denmark 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi ST Alpine White
What tyres is on? A lot of noise can come from rough terrain tyres!
Regards
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Puma 130 - 08- sold
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Post #895842 4th Apr 2021 9:09am
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
A few things to consider...
1- sound insulation of the roof is a must, remove headliner and add butyl then foam on top of that. Replace headliner
2- doors, remove door card and add butyl pads to the door skin, place door card
3- add sound deadener matts to the seatbox. Like the wright off road mat system
4- add sound insulation to the underside of bonnet and around the edge add a rubber seal (a lot of noise comes from there)
5- add a slick shift kit to the shifter, a lot less flinging your arm about when shifting makes it more car like
6- bit pricey to add but an overdrive unit (Global Roamerdrive) reduces RPMs and internal cab noise/vibration considerably
7- replace clutch spring, clutch slave or master with LOF kits. They DRAMATICALLY reduce clutch effort
8- add Disco II upper shock tower cone ring isolators to the front springs and regular rubber spring isolators to thr top of thr rear springs.

All of these I have done to my 110 CSW as my daily driver and these mods render your Defender much more pleasurable to drive and dramatically reduces driver fatigue. Check out links below, I have not used all of these products but similar ones. The links are just for you to get an idea of what is possible.

Good luck (hope you keep the Defender) Thumbs Up

Butyl sound deadener (used throughout my 110j
https://www.b-quiet.com/

Rubber sound mat system (not used but similar JLR OEM one used in my 110)
http://www.wrightoffroad.com/

Slick shift (installed in my 110, one or the best mods I have done)
https://www.onlinegearboxparts.com/product/series-slickshift/

Lighter clutch pedal. (Installed in ky 110)
https://lofclutches.com/store/clutches/pedal-assist-products/

Overdrive to reduce RPM, vibration and noise (installed in my 110)
http://roamerdrive.com/

Front upper spring isolator (installed in my 110)
https://www.amazon.com/RBC10011-Suspension...B06XTYRVB3

Rear upper spring islolator (different lnes installed in my 110 as the springs are larger diameter)
https://www.roverparts.com/suspension/springs-hardware/anr2938/

Bonnet sound insulation (not used but installed B-Quiet products underside of bonnett)
https://www.nkgroup.co.uk/product/full-lan...ofing-kit/

Bonnet edge self adhesive rubber seal (installed similar product)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Pillar-Door...SwQJlf2HBG 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
landy andy wrote:
I found a remap makes driving a lot less tiring. Saves on changing gear so often and quietens engine at speed.



+1... and add an ex disco 1.2:! t/box.... so the engine is revving less per given speed.
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mustafasoleiman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Indus Silver
Wow! Thanks all for the many useful suggestions!
Once Easter is over and family engagements are over I’ll go thru them.
One thing I forgot to mention is that I will need someone else to do this work as I have no space (we live in london), nor the ability to do all this... any garage or company that can do some of this work near london? Expensive I’m sure but still cheaper than the alternative (and I get to keep my love... the car (and the wife too!))
Again thank you.

Alex http://instagram.com/h4vou/
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mustafasoleiman



Member Since: 21 Jun 2016
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Indus Silver
Wow! Thanks all for the many useful suggestions!
Once Easter is over and family engagements are over I’ll go thru them.
One thing I forgot to mention is that I will need someone else to do this work as I have no space (we live in london), nor the ability to do all this... any garage or company that can do some of this work near london? Expensive I’m sure but still cheaper than the alternative (and I get to keep my love... the car (and the wife too!))
Again thank you.

Alex http://instagram.com/h4vou/
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Retroanaconda



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How do you manage to have a Td5 in London, is it somehow exempt from LEZ?
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Procta



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mine was remapped and had an ashcroft transfer box fitted to make it quieter, also a stack load of sound proofing. Thumbs Up Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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mustafasoleiman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Indus Silver
Retroanaconda wrote:
How do you manage to have a Td5 in London, is it somehow exempt from LEZ?


somehow it is...

Alex http://instagram.com/h4vou/
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