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Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Ingenium D250 3 litre engine failure

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"Hi guy need some advise I have a d250 commercial 110 Se new 3 litre engine
Owner for 36 days only driving along and the engine management light came on then starts shaking rapidly then travelled approximately 2 miles warning light on screen to add 1 litre of oil three started making loud noise so pulled over straight away , the car was recovery/next day LR removed the oil filter found metal pieces in the oil LR are now staying new engine / now there’s no engines available as this is the latest engine out has anyone had any problems like these.
Does anybody know my rights ! Or how I can deal with this, I would greatly appreciate some advice I’ve sent a few emails to land rover Uk with no reply.
the local dealers have been helpful just waiting on update on new engine availability. Thanks"

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16th Mar 2021 8:35am

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3463

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

Ouch. Hope it’s not the start of the spun crankshaft bearings aka Disco death.... 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

16th Mar 2021 9:07am

Digger2000

Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 590

I’m in contact with him. It’s worrying that 3 people including me all in the last week have major problems with the D250

16th Mar 2021 9:20am

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3463

Surely the 200 and 300 share enough parts that they would suffer the same issues?

What happened with yours? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

16th Mar 2021 9:29am

jim4244

Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 626

1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

What problems have you had Digger?

Jim

16th Mar 2021 9:36am

Digger2000

Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 590

There’s a whole topic section on mine below this one ‘intelligent AWD only drives in 2WD’ I haven’t had any feedback from the dealership engineers but they have been working on it for a week now. I have been checking the the remote app about 6 separate rolling test drives and about 50 miles on the clock lol LR solutions are involved they are going to phone me today with an update.

16th Mar 2021 10:29am

jim4244

Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 626

Hmmmmm..... I am just about to pull the trigger on a 110 D250 HSE after humming and harring for a couple of months. This news doesn’t fill me with confidence so I think I will wait a little longer before making a decision.

I had to reject a L494 RRS after 4 months of ownership a couple of years ago. Very stressful and not something that I want to go through again!

Jim

16th Mar 2021 10:46am

Digger2000

Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 590

Yeah I’m worried about mine especially not knowing what the engineers have found, I would of thought they should of given me an update by now. Not impressed by the service department at all they sent the vehicle back in a worse state than it was taken into them for the reported faults the first time it went in.

16th Mar 2021 10:54am

jim4244

Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 626

Blimey Digger, I have just read about the problems you are having

I think I’m going to chicken out putting my order in and instead wait 6 months or so. It’s so disappointing when a new car fails to perform or work as it should whether it be a Ford Fiesta or a Land Rover Defender. It just leaves a nasty taste in your mouth eh?

I hope you get sorted Digger.

Jim

16th Mar 2021 11:20am

SN

Member Since: 30 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729

To anyone who's dithering on an order because of what you're reading here, no disrespect to Digger2000, but don't fall into the trap of tarring all D250's with the same brush - this is one car.

Remember the universal rule on the internet, problems are always more newsworthy than non-problems. Steve N | 21MY Defender

| 08MY Discovery 3 (history)

| 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)

16th Mar 2021 11:31am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3246

As above, delaying an order won’t change anything. If it’s going to fail it’s going to fail. I’m on my 11th LR or will be, if I listened to the forums I’d never have bought my first.

We just received 6 new double decker buses at work, and one lasted a day on the road, it’s now parked up with nobody able to work out the issue. It can happen to any vehicle/manufacturer. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

16th Mar 2021 12:23pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

SN wrote:
don't fall into the trap of tarring all D250's with the same brush - this is one car.

To quote others "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

Unless you know the details of the failure on this engine which make it a unique event; or indeed if that is an accurate diagnosis, then it's not possible to say one way or the other.

Given the nature of mass production, quality standards, singular techniques, automated and calibrated assembly sequences, it may well be harder to introduce a unique fault, rather than a fault traced to a batch of components, faulty torque gun, out of alignment sensor, etc, which would lead to a number of common errors across a range of assembled vehicles.

16th Mar 2021 7:45pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Laws of averages says one day I will smack my thumb with a hammer whilst knocking a nail in. All manufactures must have a allowance for failure. 130's have feeling's as well you know

17th Mar 2021 11:46am

SN

Member Since: 30 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729

Supacat wrote:
SN wrote:
don't fall into the trap of tarring all D250's with the same brush - this is one car.

To quote others "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

Unless you know the details of the failure on this engine which make it a unique event; or indeed if that is an accurate diagnosis, then it's not possible to say one way or the other.

Given the nature of mass production, quality standards, singular techniques, automated and calibrated assembly sequences, it may well be harder to introduce a unique fault, rather than a fault traced to a batch of components, faulty torque gun, out of alignment sensor, etc, which would lead to a number of common errors across a range of assembled vehicles.

So we assume the worst on every last

potential issue - do you work in Health and Safety by any chance?
Or are you just an internet troll who takes issue with everything? Steve N | 21MY Defender

| 08MY Discovery 3 (history)

| 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)

17th Mar 2021 12:59pm

Gareth

Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 1038

I’m just going to check the oil on mine. 😛 At least it’s got a traditional dipstick. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy
1968 S2a 88 aka Bob
2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged.

17th Mar 2021 1:11pm

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