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boode



Member Since: 11 Apr 2012
Location: Devon
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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
Retro fitting Headlight level
As title I wish to fit the switch and motor to my TD5 90 to adjust the headlights
Switch is part number AMR 5874
Motors are AMR 2090
But I also need rings to fit around the headlights but I can not find a part number for these
Does anyone know what parts these are
And will I need any other parts ?
Post #873187 16th Dec 2020 12:21am
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V8GPC



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Headlamp Bowl Assembly - STC4029 - with levelling (not handed)
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-STC4029

Genuine ones £10.82 from Rimmer Brothers

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Post #873204 16th Dec 2020 8:43am
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
When I did it I needed bowls and motors both sides plus the switch. The headlight rings themselves are the same... The motor adjusts where the original screw locates. The motors are the same as used in classic mini which you can get quite cheaply.

The wiring was present behind the dash and on the nearside but missing on the offside so it would be worth your while to whip out the headlights and check whether the connector is there. I replaced the offside sub loom from bulkhead connector to headlight with one I picked one up from eBay. All works great Thumbs Up > 110 XS Double Cab
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Post #873206 16th Dec 2020 9:22am
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donmacn



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Interesting idea. I'd never even considered this as a possibility.

Do you mean retro-fitting this to a car which had no part of the installation - i.e. no loom, switch, motor, bowl? In my case a 1994 SW. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #873256 16th Dec 2020 1:51pm
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boode



Member Since: 11 Apr 2012
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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
I now have the Motors, Bowls and switch
Simple question
Does the motor attach at the base ? Have seen one video showing it there
The adjustment screws are at 9 and 12 o'clock, with a fixing screw at about 4:30
So what does the adjuster push against ?

Cant find any photos of one fitted
Post #875350 30th Dec 2020 11:27pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
On the bottom. This may help: https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...s_52868#10 Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

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Post #875352 30th Dec 2020 11:47pm
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boode



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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
Thanks for the diagram
So if the motor pulls the headlight in from the base - the top must move out - do I remove the top adjuster screw ?
Post #875360 31st Dec 2020 12:03am
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
The adjusters should be at 9 o'clock and 6 o'clock, with the motor shaft doubling as the latter. Darren

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Post #875366 31st Dec 2020 12:12am
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boode



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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
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Post #875367 31st Dec 2020 12:17am
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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Were the connectors present both sides? > 110 XS Double Cab
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Post #875500 31st Dec 2020 6:32pm
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boode



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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
Yes both connectors were there - but well hidden after 17 years

All installed and all works perfectly - a great and simple improvement

All genuine LR parts used and cost £150 - although I can claim the £30 VAT back Whistle
It would have only added about £100 to the original build so why LR did not fit these as standard ?????

Apologies for my dog photo bombing the picture
You can also see the new Mud USB - the green light is a bit brighter than the rest



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Post #875509 31st Dec 2020 7:25pm
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bankz5152



Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Because they never worked. Had them in my 90 & 110 neither worked and wasnt worth the cost to replace imo.

Same story for every mates landy! Never actually seen a working set!! Instagram @defender_ventures
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
boode wrote:
... It would have only added about £100 to the original build so why LR did not fit these as standard ????? ...


Probably for the same reason they didn't fit headlamp washers as standard.
Post #875562 31st Dec 2020 10:52pm
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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
boode wrote:
Yes both connectors were there - but well hidden after 17 years


Interesting! Wonder why mine only had the connector on the nearside Question Cost difference at assembly must be negligible. > 110 XS Double Cab
> Instagram @simonlanemind
Post #876587 6th Jan 2021 11:40am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
If you had a factory fitted BBUS it is possible that on the NS LR used a "Td5 specification" wing harness, which had all the connectors.
Post #876601 6th Jan 2021 12:37pm
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