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Grenadier



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Wild Card 90 wrote:
The steering wheel is middle of side window. A slightly more crowned windscreen(moving the a-post rearward), a longer door (moving the b-post rearward would solve this.
These are basics of automotive design. The foundations, so to speak.


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I must say that from this angle, with a very slight slope to the bonnet, the shoulder lines on the front wings and the oversized bumper, It looks more G-Wagen than 90, but still a whole lot better than the JLR pretender-defender.

It looks a bit like a Lenco Bearcat



Which means we can all travel like this: Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

 Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Setok



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Supacat wrote:
The rear detail on the top and bottom edges of the front doors intrigues me ~ they appear to be chamfered, and I'm trying to think of an engineering justification rather than a design one?


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Extra strength for the B pillar at the corners?
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Setok



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Grenadier wrote:
Wild Card 90 wrote:
The steering wheel is middle of side window. A slightly more crowned windscreen(moving the a-post rearward), a longer door (moving the b-post rearward would solve this.
These are basics of automotive design. The foundations, so to speak.


Click image to enlarge


I must say that from this angle, with a very slight slope to the bonnet, the shoulder lines on the front wings and the oversized bumper, It looks more G-Wagen than 90, but still a whole lot better than the JLR pretender-defender.

It looks a bit like a Lenco Bearcat



Which means we can all travel like this: Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



Ah, so that's what that vehicle is! I remember wondering about it after seeing it in some videos. Looks awesome!
Post #836128 9th Jun 2020 2:48pm
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Supacat



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Setok wrote:
Supacat wrote:
The rear detail on the top and bottom edges of the front doors intrigues me ~ they appear to be chamfered, and I'm trying to think of an engineering justification rather than a design one?


Click image to enlarge


Extra strength for the B pillar at the corners?


I hadn't looked at it that way around ~ it does make sense Thumbs Up

So this appears to have turned into a red herring?

But what about that box underneath?


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Post #836170 9th Jun 2020 6:11pm
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Slideywindows



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I've stopped reading the 2020 Defender thread.

This one is far more interesting.
Post #836217 9th Jun 2020 9:15pm
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Race.it



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There is a 2020 defender thread?
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DSC-off



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The wheels look familiar.

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They're remarkably like Mopar Moab rims, available in various sizes to suit different Jeep models, also as copied aftermarket versions. Including 17x7.5 and 17x8.5 sizes.


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If you were designing a new 4x4 and wanted to take advantage of an existing, massive range of aftermarket wheels, available worldwide, then using a Jeep wheel size and stud pattern would be the way to go. Thumbs Up
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If they are Mopar Moab then they seem to have a pretty low load rating for a vehicle with a 3.5t GVW. The specs I can find suggest they're rated at 885kgs, which seems barely adequate compared to even standard Defender 110 wheels. Darren

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Supacat



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milesr3 wrote:
What's the thing hanging under the chassis under the rear door - rear prop guard?


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Good question.

Nobody got any thoughts?

I'm going to guess that it's some form of test equipment - strain guage perhaps used in conjunction with a trailer to measure forces on the chassis or rear axle.
Post #836270 10th Jun 2020 6:54am
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Version one of the fuel tank guard?
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Grenadier



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Supacat wrote:
milesr3 wrote:
What's the thing hanging under the chassis under the rear door - rear prop guard?


Click image to enlarge


Good question.

Nobody got any thoughts?

I'm going to guess that it's some form of test equipment - strain guage perhaps used in conjunction with a trailer to measure forces on the chassis or rear axle.


Looks like they might have a 4-link anti-squat set up as used in some Baja and desert racers, plus some US muscle and drag cars.


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 Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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It’s the fold out step ! πŸ˜‚ 80" 1948
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πŸ˜€πŸ˜πŸ˜€ I thought maybe a bottle opener
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Supacat



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Door handles that work ~ sounds good to me Thumbs Up

JLR has lots of history with door handles.

Range Rover SUVs Are Recalled for a Door-Latch Problem
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recall...h-problem/

Didn't the Velar suffer with one's that wouldn't move?

They look identical to those on earlier Discoveries.
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