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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 991   
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+1 tiger sheds Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
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13th Apr 2020 9:57pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5740 
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Probably engine oil and creosote. FiL used this on his gates/fence and is many years old. 1999 Defender TD5 110
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14th Apr 2020 12:48pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641 
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Been a while since I built a shed, and then I probably over engineered it massively. But thinking of doing a project for a niece. She wants a 12' X 10' shed/summer house.
When I built mine years ago I built the frame from 2' X 2' and 400 centres. I think I had the right size timber but a bit to close on the centres. Trying to look at online pics and it's hard to see what they do. But I reckon they're about 600mm centres. Is that what you have with your built/bought sheds? 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 1:29pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1804 
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The shed I bought a couple of years ago (cant recall where from though) is in 1m panels, and all interchangable so you could configure it any way round you wanted it.
Uprights are 25x25mm and 50x50mm for the roof trusses. Its withstood the recent bad weather without issue. Assembled myself with the assistance of a friend over the course of a couple of evenings. If I was to do it again, I'd put more bearers under the floor as theres a little movement on one join in the floor. 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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14th Apr 2020 1:39pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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So the framework was 25mm x 25mm? That seems a little bit to small for me. 110 D250 SE HT
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14th Apr 2020 1:41pm |
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| Outlaw1 Member Since: 11 Aug 2016 Location: east sussex Posts: 266  
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Walfy ,What will you clad the shed with ? Decent thickness featheredge from timber merchants 600 centres will be fine . Very thin featheredge from some of the diy places 400 centres is likely not to be close enough to make a lasting job .
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14th Apr 2020 1:44pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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I need to price up the various options for cladding. A lot will depend on her budget. So it looks like stronger frame for thinner/cheaper cladding or smaller size for frame and stronger cladding.
Now my thought process would be stronger frame and then you have the option of cheaper cladding if it needs repair. But will speak to her and see what she wants. Would then need to draw up plans and a cutting list. So they can source the timber ready for a build 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 2:00pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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My initial thought was T&G but I think that will be to expensive for her. She has a modest budget but nothing huge 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 2:02pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2664 
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If you do build yourself, as you are in the NW, these guys are great (and cheap!) for pressure treated timber (this is where I bought the materials for mine):
https://www.mdhanafin.co.uk/product-category/timber/ If you go to them with a decent bill-of-materials they will do you a good price. I planned mine well, and had just one plank left over at the end of the build 
I built mine line an internal stud wall (i.e. frame), then clad on the outside with 18mm x 150mm lengths. Rock solid...can walk about on the roof and it never moves at all. Also I had 2nd hand french windows as the doors. In needed a concrete floor as I may put a heavy motorbike in there... Plenty of cheep patio doors if you did go that way https://www.gumtree.com/p/doors-windows/patio-doors/1370599963 Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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14th Apr 2020 2:51pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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MartinK, I'm based in the SW not NW. But I'll sort a cutting list and just drop it in to a few timber merchants and see what comes back 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 2:58pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2548 
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Definitely worth building your own as you can control the cost-cutting measures that go into most examples, but there are good suppliers around for pre-made small to medium sheds. I would expect minimum of 75x45 for the wall framing and 19mm cladding (actual finished thickness not nominal). And proper roofing like Onduline - not horrible old felt - plus perhaps most importantly.... gutters!
If in doubt, over-engineer it. It’s what I’ve done!  Click image to enlarge |
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14th Apr 2020 3:07pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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I like over engineering but it's not my budget or garden it's going in. So I will be constrained by her budget. But will advise to go big
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She wants something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303216662591?fb...7oLroBtX-g 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 3:14pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1804
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Yep 25x25mm. Agree it looks a little small but as the panel sizes arent massive at 1m wide and 1.7m tall, plus they screw into the adjoining panel, it makes it pretty sturdy. All came as a flat pack kit and no movement in the panels 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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14th Apr 2020 3:20pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2641
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Thanks, My initial thought process was 50x50 for outer edges and either 50x25 or 25x25 for studs. But that sounds to complicated for my tiny brain.
So think I'll be making up 5' panels for the sides so need 2 of them and then 2 X 6' panels for the front which I can let a door into. 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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14th Apr 2020 3:23pm |
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