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CarMan



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Co1



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BuckBlu110 wrote:
Is this what you mean amschnellsten?
It looks almost too good to be true. If it works as good as it looks on the videos then I’ve got an 88’ tub that’s got few holes that need this treatment.


Anyone tried this? I’ve got some rivnut holes to fill and this looks like a piece of cake. Any tips, pointers?
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Mo Murphy



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I wouldn't put a gas torch anywhere near a skin panel, it will buckle.
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Post #828038 27th Apr 2020 7:32pm
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I have used with good results a product called Alumiweld. Very similar to the product in the videos. I used it to repair rivet holes, approx 5mm, in the rear tub.
Got some distortion in the aluminium, even though it is low heat, but the distortion could have came back from some panel beating done earlier to straighten an accident damage.
The repair material is harder than the aluminum, but still can be filed. I just left the alumiweld just slightly proud, as still needed some body filler to get a smooth panel. At least i know that the filler will not absorb water from behind the panel or crack around the hole. I will try to find a pic of the repair and post it.

I recently tried to repair an AC evaporator, but the oil inside was contaminating the joint and could not get a perfect seal.

Pic added.


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By the way, in the promotional video, the molten metal is on a horizontal surface. On a vertical surface, it was a bit more challenging. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Co1



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I’m toying with removing the RAI and want to remove the rivnuts on the wing. Will this method be too hot for this, and if so what else would the collective recommend?
Apologies to the OP for the thread hijack.
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Actually come to think of it that may not look so bad with them painted over Mo. Was thinking recently Id get some new chequer plate to put on but actually that sounds a better idea Thumbs Up 1999 Land Rover Defender 110 td5 station wagon
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Post #828061 27th Apr 2020 9:06pm
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Dinnu



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Mo Murphy wrote:
I wouldn't put a gas torch anywhere near a skin panel, it will buckle.
Mo


If you do 'spot' heat, the hot zone will expand, while the surrounding metal not, and you get a plastic deformation where you have the largest temperature gradient. Once the panel cools off, it would not return to the original shape.

The trick is to not have a large gradient in temperature. So warming as large of an area as possible, and avoid large gradient in temperature.... gradually go to the required temperature where it is needed. This should avoid plastic deformation of the aluminium, and panel will regain original shape once cooled off.

I did a lot of testing on scrap parts before taking the blow lamp to the 90 panel...and even then, I was very nervous. And yes, the rods I used is not really welding, but is more like soldering. Done shear tests on scrap metal, and they all sheared from the parent metal, and not from the 'weld', indicating good bond can be achieved. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Post #828118 28th Apr 2020 6:37am
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That's cool but for most people with no experience and several holes in a relatively small area it will end in tears.
I say this as a metal finisher (I worked in the Vauxhall van plant in a previous life before joining the Ambulance service ), where we used an oxy-acetyline torch to pop small dings out of steel skin panels so that we could file them and for leading.
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I have used durafix or alike. It works well, but gets harder than the base metal and thus britle.
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