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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264   
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folk. just wondering what is typical.
I used to use the defender as an everyday motor, although I'm sure there may have been occasions when it was left for a week or so (holidays for example - although can't specifically recall) and always started. I use the defender less so now and I'm sure if it's left more than a week it ain't going to start due to a low battery. there doesn't appear to be any significant drain on the battery so just wondering whats typical out there. any advice, suggestions, bench marks etc welcome.  |
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18th Feb 2020 4:09pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3996  
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Mine is the same, any more than a couple of weeks and the battery is struggling. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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18th Feb 2020 4:10pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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hmm 2 weeks. not sure I get that far but will need to take note.
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18th Feb 2020 4:25pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2287 
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Hello Caterham
I swapped out my original battery at 4years (which was good, now in the caravan) and replaced it with a standard 90Ah LR Battery.  Click image to enlarge I've monitored it and with 'the security kit' installed I get around 3 weeks then in winter may get a slow or non starter... I drive it almost daily when here, but travel often so a week + unused is not untypical... My solution after the first non start was a CTEK charger on a maintenance setting easy to plug in with one of Martin's 13pin sockets, with the battery 'locked' away and not easily accessible, this for me is now simple
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18th Feb 2020 4:26pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2287
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Is taking a fully charged spare battery with you when parked in an Airport's long stay carpark too much...
I've thought a few times about a twin battery set up but I have 'other stuff' in there now so not a straight forward rework for me, and being a 90 space is at a premium in the back. My neighbour though I was selling the Defender when he saw me installing an external electrical hook up point...  SKIP
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18th Feb 2020 4:47pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I have fond memories of the simple days, 2 1/4 petrol & a starting handle.
In my works car park after a shift, there were always people willing to do the cranking as they had never seen it done before and wanted to have a try. Technology is not always better. |
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18th Feb 2020 6:31pm |
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| MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 572  
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I have 130 TD5 and Discovery 2 TD5 and no problems with starting after 2-4 weeks of not using it. There is no reason for non starting car, after just few weeks. Check for current consumption of car - it should be very low - less than 1mA. When it is over 10 mA, you should look for reason. Tipical problems are additionall electronic equipment like radio, CB, phone charger ... all using some small current in OFF state. Some older radios od CB were more than 10 mA, ant it is too much.
There is some automotive standard for this, and it states, that it should be lower than approx. 0,5 mA. Another think to check is the battery itself - it should be good enough to start the car 2 months after full charge. Bad batteries have often high internall discharge ratio - they are loosing energy inside. And last think - it is good idea to charge te battery before long storage of car. Storing car with partly discharged battery is not the best idea. Not this winter, but dischaged lead acid battery can freeze at -5°C, charged one wistands -30°C or lower. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo  |
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19th Feb 2020 9:20am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2494 
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Supercat just brought back memories of the last new car we bought with a starting handle. It was a Citroen 2CV and it was 1990. Was this the last production car supplied with a starting handle? (Sorry to sabotage a serious thread about batteries but someone has to keep old school technology alive
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19th Feb 2020 9:56am |
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| adolfy Member Since: 01 Dec 2016 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 58 
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I had the same problem so I changed the battery, after that I have had no problems. I then put the original battery on my 1944 Morris C8 and it lasts for months without being used or recharged.
Jon Click image to enlarge https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...C05391.JPG Land Rover 1950 series 1 Land Rover LWB 1967 series 2A Land Rover SWB 1980 series 3 Land Rover 110 Defender 2013 |
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19th Feb 2020 10:47am |
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| V8GPC Member Since: 18 Jul 2016 Location: Manchester Posts: 289
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i had a similar issue where if i didn't use the LR for 2-3 weeks then it would be too flat to start.
I had the option to either buy a new battery or buy a CTEK charger. I bought the CTEK, and put it in recovery mode; and it fixed the battery. Still on the old battery 2 years later, keep in on the CTEK when not needed - it always starts on the button, and when i go out for the day starts every time even after a few start stops etc. Try the CTEK and see how you go. |
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19th Feb 2020 1:22pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 726 
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2 1/4 diesel was a different matter though  if you could actually start it you broke your wrist 
I’ve only ever been able to start 2ltr Petrol on the series 1 with the handle. We did used to start a 1928 Gardner diesel Scammell with a rope and a couple of volunteers. Formerly mao99999 16 Focus RS Nitrous Blue. 11 FFRR TDV8 Vouge SE Black Black. 08 DEFENDER SVX SOFT TOP (SUPERB) 08 DEFENDER 110 DCPU Stornoway grey (Overland Exploration Unit) 05 Fiesta ST 150 Van 04 Jaguar XKR 4.2 Supercharged V8 02 DEFENDER 90 TD5 (next years soft top project) 95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black 95 DEFENDER 90 HT Monti Carlo blue COUNTY 300 TDi 67 109" SERIES 2a TUNED 200 TDI 64 DAVID BROWN 990 rat look 55 86" SERIES 1 |
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19th Feb 2020 4:18pm |
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| pme Member Since: 06 Jan 2016 Location: cambridge and mainly ariege Posts: 49 
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Just replaced the original battery (2007) , used every other day, maybe 25 to 50km trips, started to be a bit slow to turnover recently. It's been 0 at night which does not help. Gets left at the airport up to 3 weeks but its warmer there, small solar panel plugged into the rear power socket seems to help. Very sunny down here.
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19th Feb 2020 9:18pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3612 
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first battery lasted 4 years with intermittent use, after 3 weeks it wouldn't start, new battery going strong at 5 years old but I learnt my lesson and brought a Ctek when I brought the new battery, I now put it charge whenever I know it will be standing for more than 1 week. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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19th Feb 2020 9:36pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1205
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My 110 came to me with a new battery almost three years ago and only now it feels sluggish if parked for over a week or so. Answer CTEK charger via externally mounted 'comfort' connector. I also have the benefit of the LED lights showing the status externally when not connected
Click image to enlargectek by Richard Holmes, on Flickr 2010 XS USW 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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19th Feb 2020 10:05pm |
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