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abb



Member Since: 05 Oct 2019
Location: Surrey
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Landrover Defender - No drive
Hi guys,

I put the car into gear but there is no drive. I have engaged diff lock - and still no drive.


Backgroung:
Whilst driving at 60-70mph, i heard a loud bang - i stopped to look but didnt find anything. I drove back on 30mph - which seemed ok.
Once at home, i engage rear gear and heard loud clunking- I jacked the car up and wanted to check where the problem is coming from, but after a try now there is no drive at all.

I can manually put the lever into gear position - but when i let go of the clutch i dont feel the gear engage. The clutch pedal feels the same to the press as before.

I would appreciate any pointers on what it might be. Can i do the work myself or will i require to lift the car up

Vehicle: Landrover Defender 130 2.2 - 2012 - 50,000miles - Full service recently completed

Many thanks in advance
A
Post #812618 30th Jan 2020 12:41am
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Have you tried going in high and low range? It's possible it can be knocked into neutral there.It may be worth checking drive flanges too but unfortunately it sounds like it might be the Splined Intermediate shaft in the gearbox I think it's called.
(Anyone please feel free to mention the correct name if I'm wrong.)
The splines wear, due to not being factory lubricated, then they wear they can just let go leaving you with no drive at all to all wheels.

Out of interest what mileage are you currently on? Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #812620 30th Jan 2020 1:06am
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abb



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The car has currently done around 50k miles - but the car had been standing still for a year almost
I changed the rear halfshafts and drive flages last month (to remove the clunking noise) and all oils/ filters including transmission and transferbox.

Would i be able to change the splined intermediate shaft myself? or will it require a lift, and other specialist workshop tools?

how much would it cost (ball part) from a workshop, any idea?
Post #812621 30th Jan 2020 1:10am
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custom90



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Transfer box would need to come out I believe.

Unless you are very competent at spannering and have access to a lift I'd leave it to a reliable experienced garage.
(I would if it was me as the parts are very heavy).

I'm pretty sure the intermediate shaft is about £280 possibly a bit more for the parts exc labour.
But varies depending on what has gone wrong when they investigate.

I am no expert, many members on here are very knowledgable and have probably had the job done so can advise better.
I believe if it is that, that there are two options Genuine or Ashcroft to choose from.
What you have described does sound like the symptom a sudden loss of drive. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #812623 30th Jan 2020 1:31am
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
put it in diff lock and see if it moves, if it dosnt move then intermediate shaft is most likely cause, if it does move put it out of diff lock and ask someone to look underneath when stationary and chocked, put in gear and slowly release the clutch, if 1 of the prop shafts are turning and the car isnt moving then its a diff or drive flange/cv joint at the end that has the turning shaft DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #812631 30th Jan 2020 7:37am
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abb



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There is still no drive in diff lock - before this happened, the car made a grinding noise somewhere in the shafts. It might be unrelated - as i suspect the front UJ might need to be replaced.

Is changing the intermediate shaft something that can be done at home - car only raised on jack stands?
Post #812745 30th Jan 2020 7:27pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
wont be uj broken, uj will result in the shaft detaching and being fairly obvious and will still drive in diff lock

there are some threads on here regards changing the shaft, it is a DIY job for a competent person but there are a few tools/workrounds required

suggest a search on here there was a procedure explained step by step from one of the land rover magazines DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #812746 30th Jan 2020 7:33pm
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LR90XS2011



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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59735...iate+shaft DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #812749 30th Jan 2020 7:41pm
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Diff lock light is on with no drive?

Its def in a gear? You can hear gbox rotating?

If so sounds like time to take t box off and check the intermediate shaft. If that's ok, check clutch.

I did mine on floor of my garage, no lift. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
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Post #812989 31st Jan 2020 11:34pm
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Shorty53



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Sound like another scandalous output shaft failure. Many on this forum. Mine was a £900+ main dealer repair. Fortunately covered under warranty.
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