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RRUK
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Sun visors
Can someone tell me how the sun visors are attached to the headlining? Is it just a nut on the back side of it or is it captive?

From memory they don't fix through the headlining to the body do they? 2016 D4 HSE

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Two machine screws for each visor, those screw into a captive bracket. You will notice on your front headlining, front windscreen edge; there will be four holes line these up with the four captives and the jobs a good en! For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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Captive nuts held on the headlining or the body? 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #471923 12th Nov 2015 2:19pm
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gilarion



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Captive nuts attached to the roof you can clearly see the location on the pictures below.



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 For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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Thanks I've been wondering this also!

Can you remove the head liner panels without removing all the plastic side trimming panels?
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Not really, as you risk the chance of damaging it. Removing the side trim is not that involved anyway.
I estimate that to remove the headlining and trim carefully takes about an hour with the right tools. Removal of the interior lights is much easier if you have the right sized socket for the nuts that hold the metal base plate behind the headlining as one of those nuts being so close to the plastic surround is a pain unless you have one of those little screwdriver sockets.
Sometimes the fir tree fasteners will not come out no matter what you try and then you need a fine fret saw blade used without its holder to cut the head off, you can then once the headlining is removed tap out the stem of the fir tree with a punch or similar. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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Hardest job removing the headlining is getting the rear view mirror bracket off !

At least one of the three rivnuts will spin
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Matt,

Yes, been there, done that! 2016 D4 HSE

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Post #473470 17th Nov 2015 1:59pm
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gilarion wrote:
Two machine screws for each visor, those screw into a captive bracket. You will notice on your front headlining, front windscreen edge; there will be four holes line these up with the four captives and the jobs a good en!


Delayed thread resurrection! What size are the machine screws please Question Rob

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They're 6,3x19mm (14 x 3/4“) (AB614061L), but it's a self-tapping, not machine screw.
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Thanks for the reply, but they are definitely not self tapping and go into captive nuts Thumbs Up
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macfrank



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Embarassed Different model? Did I missunderstand what screws were meant?
Not these? https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...sors_53618
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No you didn't misunderstand, those are exactly the ones and as you can see they look like bolts, which they are, but described as self tapping Rolling Eyes
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Ok... Question It's a while since I had a closer look but I'll check again.
May take a while though, so if someone else could shed a light on this?
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Interesting that the drawing clearly shows Rivnuts (which would mean machine screws) but the description states Spiraloks which would mean self tappers. I suspect a change took place.

IIRC my 2007 TDCi uses M6 machine screws but I can't remember the length.
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