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Inigo



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Ugly as sin. However, the specs are good and by the time it is released taxation will be sensible for commercial electric vehicles.

I always liked the Delorean. I've placed a deposit, perhaps the styling will soften a little between now and then.
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Says something when the locals at the sandpit would rather put a burka on it and not a 50 caliber machine gun.

I honestly thought that this was going to steal the show instead it looks like the designers stole the drawing off a five year old.

If anything (watching the live TFL Car channel on YouTube) it looks like all the other manufacturers, apart from Land Rover) have caught up with Tesla and pitching at what the public wants, normal looking EV cars.

Tesla and LR really dropped a dookie, Tesla a vision and hype too far and LR for being behind on technology.
Post #803154 22nd Nov 2019 11:15am
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JOW240725



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If that makes it into full production looking like that, I'll eat my hat! Shocked James
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Post #803161 22nd Nov 2019 12:09pm
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ericvv



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Post #803169 22nd Nov 2019 1:58pm
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Setok



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I like it. It’s brutalist and ugly in a beautiful way. Functional and utilitarian with great capabilities and at a decent price point. Reminds me of another product that Land Rover used to make... let your eyes rest on it for a while, you will grow to it. I like it enough that I think I’ll jump on the reservation queue. Unfortunately I also think this will kill Bollinger, which is at a price point that no longer is close to being competitive. Hell, given the choice between the Cybertruck and the new Defender (same prices) I don’t see how I would end up with a Defender.
Post #803283 23rd Nov 2019 10:35am
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Caterham



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I think it's one of them.... it'll just take a little getting used to.



Rolling with laughter
Post #803289 23rd Nov 2019 1:08pm
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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
Will look great in a science fiction movie - Judge Dredd etc.. 
Post #803292 23rd Nov 2019 1:20pm
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RoadForce



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Netherlands 2000 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Coniston Green
Here in Holland we have subsidized workplaces for the mentally impaired, is Teslas financial situation so dire that they need the financial support and hence they're running their design studio with only blind people?

And 0-60 in 2.8s, why on earth...? Defender 130 HCPU Td5 MY2000
Post #803348 23rd Nov 2019 10:18pm
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Zed



Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Musk is claiming 146,000 orders received in the first couple of days.
If true that is very impressive, even taking into account you only need $100 deposit.


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/201...teel-balls

Tesla v F150


Tesla v 911


Tesla v steel ball...whoops!
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Post #803361 24th Nov 2019 12:22am
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Avion8



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Australia 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green
With a 500km range for the 4WD version, an approx $70kAUD price tag if the exchange rate holds, and a towing capacity of 4500kgs it ticks most of the boxes I need. I can alway tow the Defender on a trailer & swap vehicles if the batteries go flat! But seriously I have put my deposit down. Laughing 1955 Series 1 107" Pick up.
1977 RRC Suffix 'D'.
2000 Defender 110 TD5 Xtreme.
2015 Defender Heritage 90.
Post #803363 24th Nov 2019 2:14am
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familymad



Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Another deposit here.

Such a shame the Defender has been delivered on an antiquated platform that can’t handle a full BEV. Old before it was born. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #803437 24th Nov 2019 9:40pm
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Zed



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Electric tonneau cover that is strong enough to stand on.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck...ion-video/

Few more details:

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Ads90



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
Looking at the pics of it vs an F150, it looks slightly bigger than the F150.
That makes it uncomfortably big for British minor roads - I would say a Ranger is as big as you want to go before driving lanes for anything other than commercial purposes is going to be awkward/embarrassing. You're not going to fit in a Tesco car park.
Same concern with the Bollinger & Rivian - no surprise as they are aiming at the NA F150 market.
I'm looking forward to Euro-sized derivatives.
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Wondering how heavily it's design leans on this earlier iteration of the form from 2016:


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"The United Nude Lo Res Car is part of the United Nude Lo Res Project, which started several years ago and has become an important signature of the brand. The Lo Res design method is based on the principle of re-designing the same object in a series, each time lowering the 3D resolution, resulting in a more fragmented and abstract design each step of the way. The Lo Res car shape came from lowering the 3D resolution of the iconic Lamborghini Countach, a Marcello Gandini (at Bertone) design from the early seventies. The Lo Res car is a conceptual design experiment, rather than a conventional car. Its abstract appearance makes it look like a moving sculpture."

https://www.unitednude.com/news-page/Lo-Res-Car
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Zed



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Elon Musk reveals why Cybertruck window smashed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50547044 WARNING.
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Post #803688 26th Nov 2019 7:30pm
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