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Avelingporter

Member Since: 25 Jan 2016
Location: Southampton
Posts: 397

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

More interested in what the travel trailer come caravan going is. Anyone?

18th Sep 2019 8:37pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 3995

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

It looks like an Australian type one like this sort of thing...

https://www.trakmaster.com.au/ 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

18th Sep 2019 8:43pm

Tommo

Member Since: 19 Dec 2013
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 830

2006 Defender 90 Td5 Black LE Java Black

I think what is happening is that the marketing is focusing on the type of person who may buy the new defender and deliver them a concept lifestyle vehicle.
So its not for the typical user of this forum who tends to appreciate the traditional ruggedness of the old defender.
However, some of the mods that are around for the old defender are also lifestyle mods which some people feel they must have to improve the experience of the ownership of the old defender, which includes the off road handling, mods that help overcome most environments, mods that improve the look.
So...isn't what they are marketing with the new defender the same as what we have been exposed to with the old defender apart from the fact that they are targeting the lifestyle??
People will be sold on some of the options and what probably grates is the fact that LR has already got ahead of the game by developing the mods that are dealer fitted rather than something that we add ourselves pottering around at weekends.

18th Sep 2019 8:48pm

dailysleaze

Member Since: 23 May 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 237

That video was so sterile and uninspiring

18th Sep 2019 10:37pm

BogMonster

Member Since: 05 Feb 2008
Location: Stanley
Posts: 389

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Tim in Scotland wrote:
£200 for an old weed killer bottle recycled and a hozelock sprayer added is really taking the mick too

Brilliant

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2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi

19th Sep 2019 12:19am

Keith5

Member Since: 27 May 2016
Location: Scotland
Posts: 352

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

Avelingporter wrote:
More interested in what the travel trailer come caravan going is. Anyone?

One of these: https://bruderx.com/brochure/exp-6/

Click image to enlarge Keith

19th Sep 2019 7:13am

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2068

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

Huttopia wrote:
I’m delighted. The serious voice says the mud flaps are.......Land Rover branded 🙄. It would be a bit frikkin odd if they had Suzuki on. Who comes up with this chuff?

Anyhoo, the more I see of the vehicle itself, forgetting the plastic add on and very likely to break side steps, the more I like the shape of it. I liked the shape of D3 and D4 we had, just the electrics and mechanicals let them down. Is the new Defender much lighter than a D4?

My partners 2l D5 is a lot lighter than her 3ltr D4 was .. so probably the new standard Defender will probably be lighter than the D4 as the building techniques and materials are more modern ... Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126

19th Sep 2019 7:30am

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3009

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

ak615 wrote:
nosnibod wrote:
And the £250 “portable rinse system”!

I have that fitted on my Puma works a treat every time it rains it rinses the inside

Made me laugh.

19th Sep 2019 7:42am

Rashers

Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3334

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Keith5 wrote:
Avelingporter wrote:
More interested in what the travel trailer come caravan going is. Anyone?

One of these: https://bruderx.com/brochure/exp-6/

Click image to enlarge

Forget the new Defender, I want one of these, please

19th Sep 2019 7:54am

Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 904

At least it has a real Defender towing it too

19th Sep 2019 8:22am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3750

Jeez £78,000 for a caravan that only sleeps 2, you could buy a nice Defender (Classic or New) for that! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

19th Sep 2019 9:13am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3750

wyvern wrote:
My partners 2l D5 is a lot lighter than her 3ltr D4 was .. so probably the new standard Defender will probably be lighter than the D4 as the building techniques and materials are more modern ...

According to the e-brochure the unladen weight of a basic 90 will be 2.2t and a full spec 110 will be 2.4t

When I was looking at a D5 last year every dealer I spoke to told me that the D240 would be a disappointing drive after a 3.0ltr RRS. From standstill, slow to accelerate but once up to speed it was fine so a heavier New Defender’s performance won’t be much better I would imagine. The negativity from the salesmen put me off asking for a test drive. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

19th Sep 2019 9:25am

Rashers

Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3334

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Jeez £78,000 for a caravan that only sleeps 2, you could buy a nice Defender (Classic or New) for that!

Like the new Defender Tim, it is beyond my pay grade

Still think it would look kind of cool hung on the tow hitch.

Not sure if I spent £78000 on a caravan, I would be doing anything too extreme with it?

19th Sep 2019 9:44am

doncarloz

Member Since: 29 Oct 2017
Location: Styria
Posts: 60

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Stornoway Grey

[quote="Tim in Scotland"]

wyvern wrote:

When I was looking at a D5 last year every dealer I spoke to told me that the D240 would be a disappointing drive after a 3.0ltr RRS. From standstill, slow to accelerate but once up to speed it was fine so a heavier New Defender’s performance won’t be much better I would imagine. The negativity from the salesmen put me off asking for a test drive.

I had a similar experience. My dad used to have a 3l.0 tdv6 D4 and now has a 3ltr RRS. When he got different LR Service cars they mostly gave him the 2.0 td4 ingenium diesels and I couldn´t believe how big the real world difference was. I´m really hoping the new defender will get the 3.0 diesel soon. Stunning engine.

19th Sep 2019 1:51pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3009

From a Top Gear article:

Quote:
There isn’t a step
Despite its checkerboard look, the two panels on the bonnet are not structural – if you stand on them, you’ll end up putting your foot through the bonnet. Embarrassing.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt...defender#1

I reckon I nailed it.

Zed wrote:
Speaking of car parks, I had been pondering what possible use there could be for the oddly positioned strips of chequer plate on the bonnet.
Today at Waitrose the penny finally dropped when I witnessed a lady put her handbag on the bonnet of her RR sport in order to fish stuff out.
Absolutely brilliant! Gerry is a genius. No longer will your Louis Vuitton scratch the paintwork when out shopping.

19th Sep 2019 2:06pm

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