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Chawks

Member Since: 19 Feb 2017
Location: Dorset
Posts: 118

I like it but £23k

6th Aug 2019 9:53pm

Sulisuli

Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
Posts: 4789

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Martin wrote:
Would like him to have bought an ad as he’s not a forum member

Martin I will pay for it

can you pm me details how too.

Thanks for the pm, advert paid for 190806-876

Apologises

2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90

6th Aug 2019 9:56pm

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6480

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Thanks

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

6th Aug 2019 10:14pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16871

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Swine&Small wrote:
Are those wheels, which appear to stick out beyond the arches, legal ??

No, definitely not legal.

6th Aug 2019 10:27pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16871

90 Dreamer wrote:
Actually they don't

I have 2x JDM vehicles that have factory HID's and no wash feature.......both pass MOT without comment

Actually they do. HID headlights require washers and must be self-levelling. The fact that yours passed an MOT doesn't make them legal, it just raises questions about the MOT, and if genuinely factory-fitted questions about EWVTA or IVA compliance.

6th Aug 2019 10:32pm

Sulisuli

Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
Posts: 4789

Everyday is a school day, thanks for the info blackwolf

I will let the seller know. 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90

6th Aug 2019 10:34pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16871

The EGR deletion is also illegal now too, and if the cat was factory fitted its removal is too. Oh dear!

It is an eye-catching vehicle though, that can't be denied.

6th Aug 2019 10:36pm

Sulisuli

Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
Posts: 4789

Make a nice ornament

as it seems you can’t drive it anywhere 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90

6th Aug 2019 10:39pm

90 Dreamer

Member Since: 13 Jul 2019
Location: Oop North
Posts: 2052

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

blackwolf wrote:
90 Dreamer wrote:
Actually they don't

I have 2x JDM vehicles that have factory HID's and no wash feature.......both pass MOT without comment

Actually they do. HID headlights require washers and must be self-levelling. The fact that yours passed an MOT doesn't make them legal, it just raises questions about the MOT, and if genuinely factory-fitted questions about EWVTA or IVA compliance.

Not aware of any JDM vehicle with factory HID's that have washers so cant just be my MOT guy, and in actual fact both vehicles have previously been MOT'd by A.N. others so they must all be 'wrong'.........

6th Aug 2019 10:57pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16871

Fit wider flares, LED headlights in place of the HIDs, and keep quiet about the exhaust and you have a winner!

It doesn't need much.

6th Aug 2019 10:59pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16871

90 Dreamer wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
90 Dreamer wrote:
Actually they don't

I have 2x JDM vehicles that have factory HID's and no wash feature.......both pass MOT without comment

Actually they do. HID headlights require washers and must be self-levelling. The fact that yours passed an MOT doesn't make them legal, it just raises questions about the MOT, and if genuinely factory-fitted questions about EWVTA or IVA compliance.

Not aware of any JDM vehicle with factory HID's that have washers so cant just be my MOT guy, and in actual fact both vehicles have previously been MOT'd by A.N. others so they must all be 'wrong'.........

Assuming you mean Japanese Domestic Market, presumably the vehicles have been IVA'd on import and that's when it should be picked up. Inadequate HID conversion only became an MOT test failure last year so you may be in for a shock next time.

You may want to have a read of this https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/doc.../class3457

Section 4.1.4 makes it clear that it has, since 2018, been a mandatory major defect if the lights are HID and either have no levelling or have no cleaning system.

6th Aug 2019 11:18pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

Reading through that (section 4.1.5 and 4.1.6), it suggests that what you say is true 'if fitted'

Presumably, if JDM vehicles don't have them fitted as standard and they've passed the appropriate import inspection, they're good to go.

The one thing that is categorically illegal is converting an existing headlight to HID, which is clear in 4.1.4. Darren

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7th Aug 2019 8:11am

Welshsurferdude

Member Since: 23 Feb 2012
Location: Newport
Posts: 2312

Lovely base vehicle worth about 13 to 15k as a soft top

All the cheap extras like tyres spots winch bumpers need to be removed ideally

No way that’s worth 23k 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

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7th Aug 2019 8:20am

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10359

Well that got roasted.

7th Aug 2019 8:42am

90 Dreamer

Member Since: 13 Jul 2019
Location: Oop North
Posts: 2052

LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Reading through that (section 4.1.5 and 4.1.6), it suggests that what you say is true 'if fitted' Presumably, if JDM vehicles don't have them fitted as standard and they've passed the appropriate import inspection, they're good to go.

The one thing that is categorically illegal is converting an existing headlight to HID, which is clear in 4.1.4.

thats exactly my point these are factory units not some chinese egay special..........no facility for washers ever existed

for some reason i cant access that MOT test at work but think it only applies after 2009 (if fitted)

7th Aug 2019 9:11am

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