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| nitram17 Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2260  |
Thanks smithy i was just going to ask about the alive comfiort springs full height .....you saved me the bother.How much better are they than the original set up?if you had 400 notes to spend would you spend it on the springs first or something else?
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21st Jan 2019 12:28am |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223 
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For alive set up 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue 1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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21st Jan 2019 1:08am |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380 
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Thanks Smithy for posting your views most of us would not have the opportunity to compare the lowered and standard height Alive comfort springs.
I am surprised the ride between lowered and standard height comfort springs is quite different. 2016 Defender Landmark 90 2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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21st Jan 2019 9:18am |
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| WindyJ Member Since: 18 Oct 2018 Location: France Posts: 190 |
I have the Alive lowered springs. I don’t find them crashing at all, far from it. Compared to running the standard OE springs the ride is much better and the cornering....well that’s night/day difference. Still a bit “boaty” but the Bilstein sort that. Not my choice as an off road animal but I got the Defender for towing horseboxes and now, because i like it, an everyday road car. I’m fairly convinced the front isn’t lowered at all, just the back which sits 3/4 inch lower than front. Possibly by design, possibly wrong springs. Drives fine but looks odd. Unfortunately, Alive not very good at returning contact to find out
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21st Jan 2019 1:32pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2626 
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Are you are the lowered weren’t the alive ‘sport’ springs? I have these and yes they are a lot different to the comfort springs but for me i prefer them |
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21st Jan 2019 1:57pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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My Alive setup resulted in a drop of 3/4' back and front. A much better ride on the road with the loss of that unstable feeling at roundabouts and the loss of ,in Small's case, the feeling of being seasick.
I think the car sits better, drives and corners better and now fits in the garage.
No downside as far as we are concerned for our type of usage. Cannot comment on the effects on off road usage. 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue 1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. Last edited by Swine&Small on 21st Jan 2019 2:41pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Jan 2019 1:59pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2626
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I also think ditching the bfg’s made a huge improvement too,
Ride is so much better on cooper’s Grip improved dramatically... don’t do any serious off roading but haven’t got stuck yet. |
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21st Jan 2019 2:02pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3618 
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FWIW, I recently fitted the B6’s and standard height comfort springs from alive on my 90 and it is very noticeably better on and off road. Significant step change in on the road manners and much more contact off road; no skipping or jumping. This is at the same tyre pressures in both instances.
If your around North Yorkshire and fancy a test drive, give me a shout. |
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21st Jan 2019 8:42pm |
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| Smithy Member Since: 25 Jul 2010 Location: Monmouthshire Posts: 21 |
I would recommend changing back to standard height springs for the best improvement to the ride quality with a H/D ARB.
I forgot to mention I had fitted the rubber isolation rings from a Disco on the top of each spring for obvious reasons after reading a post on this forum. The Alive Comfort springs are a quality product which comes at a price. |
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23rd Jan 2019 1:03am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19604
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I have the rubber isolators too, they are brilliant.
Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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23rd Jan 2019 1:42am |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380
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Just for confirmation Smithy were your lowered springs sport springs?
Which springs did you fit the rubber isolators to? Thanks 2016 Defender Landmark 90 2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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23rd Jan 2019 7:03am |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2260 |
Steve do you have the isolators top and bottom on all the springs? which ones did you use?If you use the isolators all round on the alive normal height springs won't you raise the height of the truck by a couple of cm?(not much I know) |
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23rd Jan 2019 8:11am |
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| deaallen Member Since: 15 Feb 2016 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 264 
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Yep I fitted the disco rubber isolators with my Alive comfort springs (they didn't do standard height springs then) and it basically negated any height change
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23rd Jan 2019 1:19pm |
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| Smithy Member Since: 25 Jul 2010 Location: Monmouthshire Posts: 21 |
Just to confirm the 10mm thick isolators were fitted to the top of each spring to isolate the body.
The Alive springs were fitted in 2012 by CSK not sure if they were sports springs. |
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23rd Jan 2019 6:06pm |
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