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Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 904

I see what you mean, I had a 300tdi years ago as my first Defender, no electronics on it to worry about.

The td5 is much nicer drive though and and the mod cons are great, it was what I wanted at the time but couldn't afford. It's a good balance between old school and modern

27th Jan 2019 4:37pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2225

All Defenders were reclassified as commercial vehicles around 2011. So if you can stretch to any 2.2 TDCi you’ll pay only £230.
Some late 2.4 SW crept into the lower tax band as well. Worth checking when looking at one to buy.

27th Jan 2019 7:53pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4932

What is the air con like on these? I have seen two with air con on. Is it troublesome or worth having? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

27th Jan 2019 8:53pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4932

lightning wrote:
All Defenders were reclassified as commercial vehicles around 2011. So if you can stretch to any 2.2 TDCi you’ll pay only £230.
Some late 2.4 SW crept into the lower tax band as well. Worth checking when looking at one to buy.

The later ones are a bridge to far for me to cross sadly

me and my dad had a chat yesterday, with me young enough to get a loan out, I was going to give my dad 2k to get his chassis swopped. His defender is the last ever motor he will buy now, so its his asset. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

27th Jan 2019 8:56pm

AndyT66

Member Since: 19 Sep 2016
Location: Bedford
Posts: 148

2004 Defender 90 2.5 TD XS CSW Zambezi Silver

My 2003 has aircon , I had a small leak on one of the pipes a couple of years ago, but since then it's been trouble free. It gives a good blast of icy air and helps with condensation. Recommended if you find one with it fitted

27th Jan 2019 9:09pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16858

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Several models of 2.4 from 2007 on are also N1 with the lower tax, essentially all commercial variants (HT, PU, DCPU). Don't discount these.

27th Jan 2019 11:10pm

Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 904

The air con is fine and works adequately, great to have.

28th Jan 2019 11:40am

OsloBlue

Member Since: 14 Jul 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 822

Only problem with td5 air con is that it only cools your nuts I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html

28th Jan 2019 12:19pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2225

TD5 aircon is OK. It’s basically a big carbuncle under the dash and is separate from the heater. So it can’t blow cold air on the screen directly.
But it does work, and is worth having if you can get it. Having said that my CSW 110 doesn’t have it and l’ve not really had a problem, in the summer l just open the vents and windows.
Aircon won’t usually work below about 5deg C so in the Winter there’s not much difference.

The TDCi aircon/heater is much better, although the fan is noisy even on the lowest setting and it doesn’t have the bulkhead vents.
I would say you need aircon more in a TDCi than a TD5.

28th Jan 2019 2:42pm

Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 904

It's perfectly adequate despite its after thought design (I quite like it!), providing you adjust the vents so it doesn't just freeze your knees/nuts!

Obviously, the tdci is a much more integrated/efficient system but it was thoroughly revised with the new dashboard.

28th Jan 2019 6:16pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5416

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

As above Td5 ac works ok, and gives very very cold keys, but in a Tdci ac is a must due to no bulkhead flaps, and the fact the transmission tunnel gets stupidly hot on a long drive, which is made even worse by opening a window.

28th Jan 2019 10:58pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4932

Do these have a dual mass flywheel? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

2nd Feb 2019 7:34pm

MadTom

Member Since: 10 Sep 2013
Location: Olomouc
Posts: 572

TD5 has dual mass flywheel, bu it is not a problem, normally it survives longer than clutch. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo

2nd Feb 2019 7:57pm

LandymanStefan

Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 860

Procta wrote:
Do these have a dual mass flywheel?

Yes, helps feather out some of that extra torque once youve got it remapped!

2nd Feb 2019 8:36pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4932

How strong are the dual mass flywheels? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

2nd Feb 2019 8:48pm

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