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NickEJ



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I am enjoying this debate and thank the moderator and site for providing a venue for the exchange of ideas Thumbs Up
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Indeed, remarkable how those who decide to have an episode of Trump bashing also see it as fully accepatable to have explicit material uploaded in their gallery on Defender forum too.
As well as not being based in France where the thread was originally deemed to be about and also not located in the US or UK either.

Perhaps the original subject should be stuck to instead of childish behaviour. Idea Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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That was my doing Steve. I openly invited Zed to discuss other topics than French riots. That picture doesnt bother me. It's the least offensive thing Americans see and hear throughout a normal day absorbing US media. It's much less offensive than the soft coup being perpetrated by the opposition party right now.
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Martin wrote:
Let's not have this thread getting out of hand please Whistle


Too late for that, it did.

Not much, if anything, sensible has been said about the actual topic subject. Understandable, because most on here are too removed from it.
But it is interesting to see certain positions advocated here. Tells a lot about certain people, really enlightening.
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I like Zed's posts because they are constantly slipping into Islington Stalinism.

One post said "normal" people laugh at....

So if you disagree, you are clearly not "normal"?

And recently he says "Trumps rhetoric finds favour with extremists over here" which means that if you agree with what Trump is doing, you are an"extremist" and must, presumably, be a member of a tiny neo-Nazi minority. Shocked

On TV the other day, a left-wing Oxford professor began his statement by saying "Anyone who is not a fool will see....."

So again, if you disagree you must be a "fool" and you really shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion.

Watch out for this condescending claptrap from the Socialist squires on their personal Broadcasting channel (which you fools, extremists and abnormals are paying for.)


Once aware of it you will notice more of it.
Post #744554 7th Dec 2018 7:46pm
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Umm....well the good news is that Macron has abandoned his planned January tax raid on fuel and two of the largest unions who had decided to join the GJ protests in Paris tomorrow have asked their members to stay home.
It’s unlikely the French Nick Clegg Alike accidental President will survive, such was his blindness to this (they actually announced they were putting MPs wages up 27% and giving them 68% more expenses 3 days before the first planned protest) sense of real injustice that a huge percentage of the French people are feeling.

Anyone travelling through France this holiday season should be ok, worth having an extra jerry can in the back though would be my advice.
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Slideywindows wrote:
I like Zed's posts because they are constantly slipping into Islington Stalinism.

One post said "normal" people laugh at....

So if you disagree, you are clearly not "normal"?

And recently he says "Trumps rhetoric finds favour with extremists over here" which means that if you agree with what Trump is doing, you are an"extremist" and must, presumably, be a member of a tiny neo-Nazi minority. Shocked

On TV the other day, a left-wing Oxford professor began his statement by saying "Anyone who is not a fool will see....."

So again, if you disagree you must be a "fool" and you really shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion.

Watch out for this condescending claptrap from the Socialist squires on their personal Broadcasting channel (which you fools, extremists and abnormals are paying for.)


Once aware of it you will notice more of it.


Cheers Slidey but I'm definitely not into "Islington Stalinism" That would also be extremism. I am definitely a moderate. Or perhaps moderate with attitude.

I have no problem with you or anyone else expressing an opinion (within forum rules) but it's very telling that you throw your toys out the pram if anyone disagrees.
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Drove the length of France last week, in the Defender, from Spain via Lyon and Eperney to the tunnel.
20 min delay just over the border, only 2 toll booths open, a lot of peaceful protesters with no apparent central organisation insisting on a friendly chat. "Today no tolls" (saved around £100)!
Overhead displays said motorway closed around 100km into France, by the time we got there it was open again.
Quite a few exits closed, very light traffic.
Several local fuel stations closed but most OK on the motorway.
Overall an easy run due to light traffic and luck missing major problems and staying well away from Paris.
The situation seems to shift daily, and the protesters that we met were friendly and happy to engage in Franglais (je parlez francais comme le garcon de l'ecole primary) conversations.
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I also drove length of Spain and France returning a car from Tenerife to UK week before last.

No delays at French border, only thing amiss was toll barriers missing and a couple protests on the local roads to our 3 over night stays through france.

Motorways and petrol stations were all fine.

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Post #744666 8th Dec 2018 2:12pm
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Bloody warzone today!
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WindyJ iam not surprised, the uk should strike but we don't sadly, hence why the government seems to do what they want! At least the French are showing the government that they are not standing for it. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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If that had been today, they would have set it on fire!
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