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What spec of switch are the second ones?

Off/On or On/On? Normal or momentary?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Which make of switches have you got Steve?


The switch with terminal layout below is not on the Carling switch layout on the Mud site



8 . 7

2

3 . 6


So which brand of switch is it?


Switches with terminal lay out

8 . 7
1
2
3


Couldbe a few different switches

Try rocking the switch. Does it lock into a position when pressure is removed or is it sprung loaded to return to centre


If a Carling switch it could be

a) . Off-On (EU)

b) . On-On (EU & USA)

c) . Mom-off-Mom (EU & USA)


c) can be determined if the switch does not latch into the top or bottom position and rests in middle.

b) . Put a meter on pin 2 and 1 and rock the switch should get zero resistance on either the top or bottom position. Meter on 2 and 3 should get zero resistance in opposite switch position. This switch will lock into top and bottom and rest in middle

a) Off-ON . (EU) . Meter on 2 and 1 should get zero resistance. Should lock into either top or bottom . off-on


HTH


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Second switches are off on.... @steve_overland on Insta.
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The first are from a company called on board air... so I’m guessing at not genuine .... @steve_overland on Insta.
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https://www.mudstuff.co.uk/pdfs/Carling%20...202017.pdf

Gives

1: Power In
2: Power Out
3: Link to Pin 2
7: Earth
8: Illumination+

Your first switch appears to be a "Carling type"/clone as we discussed above. Follow landy andy's posted image.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Cheers Martin...

What does the link to pin 2 do ??? @steve_overland on Insta.
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@Steve_Overland: have you got the Carling part code from the body of the switch?  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Hmmm. Should be a code starting V1D?

Answer to your previous question is: I don't know what the link to pin 2 does - it doesn't match the expected working from Carling's own datasheet.

Hence asking what the exact Carling switch code is so I can find it Thumbs Up  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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V4d2 maybe @steve_overland on Insta.
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Ok V4 are On-On type

Power in to 2
Power out to 1 in one position
Power out to 3 in the other

No link required.

Check with a meter which of 1 or 3 is connected to 2 with the switch in your desired "on" position.

The US/EU types available make this a headache too.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Is that still the earth and illumination as before...7 earth 8 from lights... 2 power in and then 1 or 3 power out.... @steve_overland on Insta.
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Yep  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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