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StructuralDefect



Member Since: 09 Aug 2020
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Now that the wheels have been blackened I will be getting my silver "bits" (as y'all say) painted black. Have a quote for 1000 bucks to do it which feels super reasonable to me.



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 2020 Defender S, P300 in Fuji White w/black ext. pack. Ebony leather heated front/rear seats. Comfort & conv. pack. Towing pack. Cold climate pack. Panoramic roof & expedition roof rack. Classic mud flaps. Fog lights. 19 inch 6 spoke w/off road tires. Clear sight rear view mirror. Sirius XM. Delivery 9/4/20
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StructuralDefect



Member Since: 09 Aug 2020
Location: Middletown, Ohio
Posts: 44

United States 
Now that the wheels have been blackened I will be getting my silver "bits" (as y'all say) painted black. Have a quote for 1000 bucks to do it which feels super reasonable to me.



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 2020 Defender S, P300 in Fuji White w/black ext. pack. Ebony leather heated front/rear seats. Comfort & conv. pack. Towing pack. Cold climate pack. Panoramic roof & expedition roof rack. Classic mud flaps. Fog lights. 19 inch 6 spoke w/off road tires. Clear sight rear view mirror. Sirius XM. Delivery 9/4/20
Post #860508 8th Oct 2020 7:13pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White


Rolling with laughter --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #860572 9th Oct 2020 7:39am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
It's difficult at times to get through his videos but he does have some interesting points underlying the basic expletive-laden theme.

I'm going to have to try and lookup the two court cases he quotes...
Post #860581 9th Oct 2020 8:49am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
the one about Sally Morphy is famous: https://www.millsoakley.com.au/thinking/wh...nge-rover/ --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #860584 9th Oct 2020 8:54am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Now this poses the problem in the U.K. specific to New Defender - is Land Rover ltd the importer of a car made by a 3rd party in Slovakia or is it considered to be the manufacturer........ or in U.K. law is there no difference between importer and manufacturer? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #860590 9th Oct 2020 9:34am
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AMBxx



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
It's way more complicated than that - where are all the parts made, any partial assembly...
Post #860606 9th Oct 2020 10:57am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Are you referring to the recent rules of origin (Brexit) issue rather than this Australian consumer law case?
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Supacat



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Now this poses the problem in the U.K. specific to New Defender - is Land Rover ltd the importer of a car made by a 3rd party in Slovakia or is it considered to be the manufacturer........ or in U.K. law is there no difference between importer and manufacturer?


Not sure it matters ~ in the Australian case, the vehicle owner only took the dealer to court. It appears it was the dealer that dragged the importer into the Dock because Australian law allowed them to do so and indemnify themselves financially.

Not sure if there is a separate UK entity for import purposes but I believe that the importer in Australia is a wholly owned subsidiary of JLR.
Post #860640 9th Oct 2020 1:43pm
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SteveG



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2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
I see that LR are still subsidizing US sales with profits from UK and Europe 🙄 Price starts at $50K vs £45K, so a £7K discount for shipping it 3000+ miles...

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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
14 hours later...



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Post #860696 9th Oct 2020 7:13pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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You beat by a Millisecond! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #860697 9th Oct 2020 7:14pm
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Tim Thumbs Up

Watching TFL's experiences with the Defender is going to be interesting.
They tell it like it is.
Post #860698 9th Oct 2020 7:23pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I wonder if it’s the same GPF issue PowerfulUK had.......... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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J77



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Can’t watch that guys videos, 5 minutes and I was done.
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