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RFT

Member Since: 13 Nov 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 690

2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Zermatt Silver

Puma Additional Driving Lights - Advice Please

I regularly drive my puma 130 from Chester to Milford Haven along such lovely roads as the A483 which can at time be a little bendy and full of surprises including livestock, rocks on the road etc. Although the 130 is only slightly slower compared to my Volvo (10 minutes slower on a 4 hour journey) it does lack something in the front wards illumination department. So I have resigned myself to spending some ££ on additional lights, or just accept that the livestock will not do too much damage to the body work when I do not see them in time.

So far I have decided that I need driving lights (i.e. wired in to main beam) I have never really understood the need for fog lights, I just don’t like them. I also want them bumper mounted for a number of reasons I don’t think roof mounted is for me, a) Will glare off the silver bonnet, b) Will clash with our demountable camper and reflect off it also, c) I just don’t like them.

We have AC fitted and hence the extended grill so we also have LR A Bar to protect the grill. As such lights between A Bar will have to be mounted so far forward that they will end up damaged, so I am leaning towards bumper top mounted lights just under the main head lights. In this position I think rectangular lights will look better and due to their low height will not suffer from the wobbling problems experienced by some larger round lights with bottom mounts.

Having looked at rectangular lights I have found very few that look good and have good reviews, one I have found is the Hella FF75, but I cannot find any reviews / comments.

Does the Puma wiring harness allow for additional driving lights (at say 2x55w) or is it necessary to wire in an addition relay?

So in summary I am looking for advice, guidance, comments and no doubt some abuse for my thoughts given above. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper

22nd Mar 2011 8:58pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

Have you considered a lower cost upgrade to your headlights rather than the expense of additional lights? You can get a pair of clear lens headlights for less than £40, and with some higher spec H4 bulbs, such as Osram Nightbreaker Plus or anything else of a similar nature, you'd probably see a significant improvement. I have bought the bits to do mine, but haven't got round to it yet. If you want additional lights, fair enough, just a suggestion if you are just wanting improved vision.

Tris.

22nd Mar 2011 9:17pm

RFT

Member Since: 13 Nov 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 690

Thanks, I'll look into headlamp upgrade, I wonder if there are upgrades that can be easily adjusted between driving on the Left & Right as I hate putting those sticky things on at the ferry terminal.

Richard 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper

22nd Mar 2011 9:22pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

These are the headlights that I bought. They also do some that have a pilot light in them too. There are lots of different upgrade H4 bulbs that you can buy, I went for Osram ones.

I haven't ever heard of anything that is suitable for use driving on both the left and right. I think you'd be unlikely to find anything as the beam pattern has to switch from one side to the other, which would basically mean mirroring the whole headlight. You never know though, might be worth some research! Hope the link is of help, gives you an idea of the sort of thing I'm talking about

22nd Mar 2011 9:33pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1854

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

I think these that Greenmachine fitted from Paddocks are the same as I fitted, with the Osram uprated (but still 55Watt) bulbs - really good lights although I do miss my KC Daylighters! And a strip of gaffer tape does the dipping problem on our regular French trips.

Cibie used to make a changeable pattern 7" headlight, fitted to Renault 4s I think but would be pre E marked and certainly pre H4 (P432? or something similar)

Lastly to reach the back of the bulbs to effect a L - R dip swap, would you have to remove the lights? If so you could just swap for LHD versions.

22nd Mar 2011 11:43pm

lrmaniac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 764

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

...sorry to ask, but what is the diference between those lamps you sugested and the original ones that come with our Defenders ?

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Joao

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22nd Mar 2011 11:48pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

lrmaniac wrote:
...sorry to ask, but what is the diference between those lamps you sugested and the original ones that come with our Defenders ?

These ones have a clear lens and the beam focussing pattern is in the reflector at the back of the bowl. Standard Defender lamps have a smooth reflector (I think?) and the focussing pattern is moulded into the plastic lens. As I haven't installed them yet, I can't comment on the extent of the improvement, but have heard from many others that it is significant. I think having the clear lens, rather than the 'cloudy' effect of the standard units gives a clearer beam. For me, it's largely to do with looks! I just prefer the look of the clear lenses - I find the standard lights on my Td5 pretty adequate for most things.

22nd Mar 2011 11:53pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1854

Crystal lights, all the beam pattern is done with the reflector, dipped beam cut off is sharp, light output is better. The Osram bulbs are superb as well - better output for the same wattage.

Worth a try as they're not too expensive.

22nd Mar 2011 11:53pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

There you go! Two explanations at the same time!

22nd Mar 2011 11:55pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1854

Is that information overload? - At least we said the same, wise men say the same, fools seldom differ!

Time for bed said Zebedee.

22nd Mar 2011 11:59pm

RFT

Member Since: 13 Nov 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 690

Ickle
I thought wise men rode camels
Are you in Broadway in Pembrokeshire?
Richard 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper

23rd Mar 2011 1:09am

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1854

Hi RFT, no sunny Cotswolds!

23rd Mar 2011 10:19pm

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