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bluebottle



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Rank amateur and a Series One
It appears I may be about to embark on a rebuild of what I think is a 1955 Series One.

More details to follow, but any first step tips gratefully received. I’m (keen amateur, defender driver for nearly 3 years) off to view with a proper mechanic (30 ish years experience on all things Land Rovers) on 27th I hope...

Should I be buying books, joining the Series One Club immediately or what?
Post #680302 21st Jan 2018 1:01am
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ian series 1



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Yes,if it’s a 1955 it will be an 86”

It would be a good idea to join the club, then you will get the club magazine,
Which will be useful to you.

How much work does it need?
Before you jump in and pull it apart, workout what you need?
Chassis ok? Bulkhead ok? Engine etc etc......

They are serious money to put right again,
Do some home work first, and make sure it’s actualy a viable project!
I’m not trying to put you off, but people don’t realise how much they cost to put right.

I’ve seen a lot of people pull them from hedgerows thinking it will be a straight forward project,
Only to give up in the first few weeks.

Anymore info on it?
Condition, etc, would be good see some pictures.

If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle and fancy one already done, I’m selling mine this year! Thumbs Up




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 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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Grenadier



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That is truly beautiful. Thumbs Up

If you don't mind my asking, why are you selling Ian? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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ian series 1



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Sadly, it just doesn’t get the use!

As much as I love it, my passion is in 80” Land Rovers and the two I have is more than enough,
I’ve done less than 50 Miles in it this year,
It just sits, which I don’t think does them any good.

The money from it, will pay for a new barn/workshop, and other new projects..... Whistle


I hope to get it into auction around spring time. Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #680336 21st Jan 2018 10:08am
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Grenadier



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Oh, ok, good to hear you have a couple more to keep you company. BTW, what's the contraption on the back? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Andy80



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I'm quiet partial to an 80" too but a good general book to invest in is:

Original Land Rover Series 1: The Restorer's Guide to Civil & Military Models 1948-58 by James Taylor.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Land-Rov...1906133158


After you hopefully purchase your desired S1 then buy the applicable Parts Catalogue and Workshop Manual.


Andy Working towards Carry on camping!
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familymad



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ian series 1 wrote:
Yes,if it’s a 1955 it will be an 86”

It would be a good idea to join the club, then you will get the club magazine,
Which will be useful to you.

How much work does it need?
Before you jump in and pull it apart, workout what you need?
Chassis ok? Bulkhead ok? Engine etc etc......

They are serious money to put right again,
Do some home work first, and make sure it’s actualy a viable project!
I’m not trying to put you off, but people don’t realise how much they cost to put right.

I’ve seen a lot of people pull them from hedgerows thinking it will be a straight forward project,
Only to give up in the first few weeks.

Anymore info on it?
Condition, etc, would be good see some pictures.

If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle and fancy one already done, I’m selling mine this year! Thumbs Up




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Lovely with the PTO Thumbs Up 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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Sounds a great project Bluebottle, please keep us posted and photos please Thumbs Up I read the other day that you need to make sure the registration is in place before stripping.

Ian, that is beautiful, you're a very talented man Bow down l'll add it to my lottery win wish list!! James
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ian series 1



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Grenadier wrote:
Oh, ok, good to hear you have a couple more to keep you company. BTW, what's the contraption on the back?



Rear PTO to drive belt driven machinery, like a saw bench. Thumbs Up



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 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #680344 21st Jan 2018 10:47am
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bluebottle



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Thanks Ian, for the tips and the offer, it’s a lovely beast but I’m afraid I don’t have that sort of money!

The back story is that this is my uncle’s vehicle and it was the first car I ever drove, a few years later it became the first my sister drove too. His daughter doesn’t have any interest in it and we do so the plan is to give it to us to keep in the family.

My understanding is that it has been standing a long while and will need a full strip and rebuild, the bodywork is ok, there are two engines, I think one is the original and there’s another which is age appropriate or something. Even if the chassis is sound (which is highly unlikely after 60 years) I plan on having it stripped, galvanised and powder coated so it should last a good long while after that.

Currrently it’s up near my father’s place in Shropshire while I’m Hampshire based. The imagined plan is that my sister and I convene for a weekend a month and take bits away to work on at our respective homes in the evenings. I don’t know how naïve I’m being with that, on a scale of Easy to Totally Unrealistic I suspect I’m probably half way up Wink
However, I’m hoping that approach will enable me to spread the cost, the rough estimate I’ve had is near £15k, but that included labour so I’m hoping to halve that at least by doing as much ourselves as possible.

I’m planning on seeing it properly next Saturday so hopefully fuller information and some pictures then.

JOW, thanks for the reminder - I read something similar too and I’m on to those issues, will see my uncle in early Feb to sort out all the paperwork.
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ian series 1 wrote:
Grenadier wrote:
Oh, ok, good to hear you have a couple more to keep you company. BTW, what's the contraption on the back?



Rear PTO to drive belt driven machinery, like a saw bench. Thumbs Up



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I'm sure it will look much nicer on your light green LBTG 80". Thumbs Up Working towards Carry on camping!
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ian series 1



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That’s where it will end up Andy Thumbs Up

Bluebottle,
It sounds a good project, will look forward to seeing some pictures.
Always good to see another being saved Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
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Good luck with your project. I have rebuilt several Series 1's over the years, 80's and 86's in different variants. They are great fun and make a good project. Definitely join the Series One Club and buy a parts and workshop manual as they are invaluable especially if you have not embarked on a rebuild before. As Ian has said they can cost serious money to restore back to original specification. You need to decide what you want from the vehicle; show pony or something that you can use, also how original you want it to be as that will dictate how much it will cost.
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ian series 1 wrote:
That’s where it will end up Andy Thumbs Up
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Good good Wink Working towards Carry on camping!
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bluebottle



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defender9 wrote:
Good luck with your project. I have rebuilt several Series 1's over the years, 80's and 86's in different variants. They are great fun and make a good project. Definitely join the Series One Club and buy a parts and workshop manual as they are invaluable especially if you have not embarked on a rebuild before. As Ian has said they can cost serious money to restore back to original specification. You need to decide what you want from the vehicle; show pony or something that you can use, also how original you want it to be as that will dictate how much it will cost.


Yeah - this is a big issue which I need to discuss with my uncle and sister. My personal preference is to have a running vehicle which looks authentic, but it will be a living machine which I hope to pass on to my children. I'm hoping to chart a middle way, so I will not be upset if it has more modern underpinnings. Safety is paramount, I won't be putting inertia reel seatbelts on forward facing fold up seats in the back, but I would like the brakes to be more substantial than cocoa-tin lids.
I doubt I will be leaving worn bodywork where it's back to bare metal, but I won't be painting it lime green and putting a V8 in either.
It's not my plan to have a bearded stereotype (sorry if you are) tell me that some part is wrong and start getting all bothered about sequential serial numbered parts etc.
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