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There is always someone willing to jump in, criticise and publicly shame other members at the drop of a hat...

I always assume that those types of people on D2 are in fact Jeep or Rav 4 owners wishing and pretending to be Defender owners.  For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

Grenadier wrote:

People who cannot be courteous (or aware) enough to pull over when they are driving well below the speed limit on a mountain road.

The silly season has arrived, with tourists seemingly too terrified of the bends on a standard A road (bone dry, good quality surface) that they trundle along well below the recommended 50km limit. By the time we get to the bottom, they may have as many as 25 cars behind them, (including 8-wheeler tippers and coaches able to keep up). No idea what they are expecting to happen, as it is not as if this is the Khyber Pass, but neverthless they dribble along.

As they are either entirely unaware of anything but their journey or else have completely frazzled brains and should not be driving anyway, they make no effort to pull over. OK, we 'all share the road' and they have every right to be where they are, but pulling over is as much a sign of good driving as anything in the Highway Code, as you should be aware of the prevailing conditions and drive with a view to cars around you. Driving too slowly makes people irate and risk doing rash things, dangerous on mountain roads when you're being overtaken by a 18 year-old nutter in a 106 older than he is. So why can they not pull over?

It is 5Kms from the centre of my town to the bottom of the hill, single lane all the way, but large enough for two coaches to pass. Nothing scary and no cause for driving at almost half the speed limit. So if you are travelling at a pace that means you have no need to brake when you reach the 30km school-zone, you are definitely going too slowly and should have been corteous enough to pull over in one of the seven (yes, seven) lay-byes or bus-stops along the way.



And don't get me started on tractors....

A recommended 50km limit.... What does that mean? It does not exist. A limit is a limit, point final, the word recommended is at odds with that.
And as far as I'm concerned, those mountain drivers should better drive a bit more careful on those often steep roads. Crazy at what speeds those drivers go at on those winding roads and hairpin turns all the time, even if they do it every day. Guess they think they can defeat physics, once in a while proven wrong I guess.  You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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gilarion wrote:

Grumpy Old Persons Thread. As long as it not gender specific, makes no difference to me. Women as just as entitled to be grumpy as men.

Whilst, in principle, I agree with the non-gender approach to many things in life...

Would this approach account for the more serious grumps, of the other gender, especially when a Grumpy Old Man winds them up (or any man for that matter!), as is more often than not the case...

I sense a thread filling, mind altering, spate of uber grumps posts in the offing with such a change...

Just sayin'...  Rog...
The GREEN One...

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