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party monkey

Member Since: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Oxon.
Posts: 1311

2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Cairns Blue

td5 - occasional 'groan' initially in reverse

Folks,

Did a quick search and couldn't find a similar 'noise' related question, so apols if answered before.

Had my td5 since mid Dec'10 and have noticed on occasion, that when reversing out of the garage in the mornings, there is a 'groan' from the gearbox as you just pass the bite point in reverse. Happens once or twice for the first few yards and then nothing and then all is spot on in all forward gears. If reverse gear is used again, then the noise is not there. It's just in those first few yards.

It doesn't happen all the time and when queried with the indy that I bought her from , they commented that given the spate of cold mornings, it could just be that the oil is flowing slightly slower around the gearbox initially. On some of the milder mornings, I don't get the noise so this seems to make sense. However, if I park her in the garage so that I drive out foward then I don't get the noise at all, irrespective of the outside temperature, so is it possible that reverse gear is affected more than the forward gears?

Probably being paranoid and it's just another one of 'those' noises that's part of Defender ownership but would appreciate any comments/observations.

Cheers Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.

16th Feb 2011 9:37am

ibexman

Member Since: 13 Dec 2008
Location: kent
Posts: 2877

I had a 2006 td5 which did this it was the release bearing nothing to worry about went on for 45000 miles till i sold it cheers chris

16th Feb 2011 12:10pm

Laurie

Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Sussex, England
Posts: 2897

2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

Mine does it occasionally when starting from a cold overnight stop.
Had a new gearbox a while back. Made no difference.

16th Feb 2011 1:11pm

Alive Tuning

Member Since: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Louth
Posts: 609

It's common to Disco 2 and Defender.

We normally fit genuine LR clutch kits, and they do this from new. It's embarrasing when we reverse the car out of the workshop to hand it back to the customer.

Only happens in reverse of course, as that's the only time you'll ride the clutch.

16th Feb 2011 1:50pm

party monkey

Member Since: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Oxon.
Posts: 1311

Thanks all for replies....

Added to my list of items entitled 'It's a defender - deal with it'

On a steep learning curve so appreciate all the help

Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.

16th Feb 2011 2:05pm

Setok

Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 415

Thanks for starting this thread. I have this exact same symptom when cold, with it going away after a while. Good to know it's a case of "a Landy thing".

16th Feb 2011 3:23pm

Fatboy Slim

Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 1006

Flywheel spigot bush. Nothing to worry about unless it gets really bad. They all do it

16th Feb 2011 8:35pm

Anderzander

Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 999

Alive Tuning wrote:

Only happens in reverse of course, as that's the only time you'll ride the clutch.

and forwards too

16th Feb 2011 8:46pm

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

clutch release bearing.

good job i'm going auto!

16th Feb 2011 8:50pm

Laurie

Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Sussex, England
Posts: 2897

Happened tonight on mine taking off in 1st gear.

17th Feb 2011 12:56am

Alive Tuning

Member Since: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Louth
Posts: 609

Fatboy Slim wrote:
Flywheel spigot bush. Nothing to worry about unless it gets really bad. They all do it

We fit these as a matter of course when doing a clutch kit. Makes no difference.

Yes, it will groan in 1st gear too, but you don't normally tend to ride the clutch in 1st like you would in reverse.

17th Feb 2011 8:57am

SteveNorman

Member Since: 16 Sep 2008
Location: Somerset
Posts: 18

Spigot bush.
We soak the new ones in oil, leaving a batch of them in oil until they are used, the bronze soaks the oil in & then when fitted, they don't 'groan'

Have fitted many like this, & none have made a noise since

Regards
Steve

18th Feb 2011 3:54pm

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