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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Cheers Clayton Thumbs Up

Bankz the product was TRG Black Vinyl Dye I did a bit of a write up here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic75168.html > 110 XS Double Cab
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

New condenser fitted today and will regass tomorrow.

I went with one of these ‘aftermarket’ ones - £250 delivered which beats £450 for the OE type. Ordered on the 16th, arrived on the 23rd and without customs charges Thumbs Up these are designed for hotter climates and almost twice the size. Quality is excellent, very nicely made. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFE...890.l49286

As for fitting… Not quite a direct swap Laughing but pretty straightforward. Took around twenty mins.

There are fan mounting brackets on the new condenser however they are designed to accommodate a 15” fan whereas the OE fan is 12” - perhaps the AC fan is 15” on the continent?

Anyway I bolted the original fan through the cooling fins the same as the mounting arrangement on the OE condenser. Works fine but I may keep my eyes peeled for a 15” one

Then the condenser fouled slightly on the intercooler, perhaps as my intercooler is aftermarket? So I spaced the condenser forward with some nylon spacers approx 10mm thick.

Finally the aluminium AC pipes were slightly out of alignment but are easily tweaked to suit.


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Matt110



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Looks absolutely great, looks like it fitted in well. Would be interested to hear if the performance is improved with the larger surface area. I had aspirations to fit 2 x 12" fans (we have a spare OE fan lying around) by relaying off the first, to give the original condenser more capability as it clearly saturates particularly in traffic sat stationary, be interested to see if this solves that issue the "correct" way instead of just adding more fan capability!! Thumbs Up

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Matt110



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....sorry one other thought.

It'll need more gas as it's a larger condenser?

Presumably to fill it correctly you need someone who's happy to run the system and then add more gas progressively till the evaporator runs at just above freezing on air egress? Not exactly sure how it works. Just dawned on me that it would be undergassed on the original amount LR put on the sticker under the bonnet.

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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

The seller said “Since your new condenser is slightly bigger than the old one, you need to top up a bit more refrigerant gas.”

I’m not particularly clued up on air con systems but am hoping that a garage will know what to do Confused > 110 XS Double Cab
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Matt110



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Was talking to a friend who used to be an AC engineer last night to see if I could work out what the process would be as it seemed a great plan for a defender as they do struggle especially abroad with UK spec condensers.

His advice was yes you could just top up a bit more but that you'd not know what that number was... You could either over charge it and end up with a system that a) trips out all the time, and b) knackers the compressor over time, or undercharge it, whereby the condenser isn't actually doing anything for you it's only performing as per previous.

He said to do it accurately the garage would have to run the system and measure the temp of the evaporator and add till you get to just above the evaporator temp where the compressor would click off.

The logic being when the car is stationary and on a hot day (i.e. the condition it's in when you're doing the exercise) that's worst case anyway. Leave windows open and run the blowers at 3.

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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I spoke with the manufacturer (Shuberg Radiators Malta) who said 70 - 100g additional refrigerant depending on climate - to be determined using gauges.
Spoke with a local AC specialist who said he would use gauges to determine peak efficiency Thumbs Up Problem is he's fully booked so being done 9th July > 110 XS Double Cab
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Matt110



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Brilliant that's great news. Glad you're sorted. Be really interesting to see how it performs. Good there's the support to know the increase in refrigerant too. Bodes well!

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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Rear brake refresh… New AP Delphi calipers with stainless pistons and high temp clear lacquer both sides. AP Delphi discs and new Timken wheel bearings all round

Had an issue with a damaged brake pipe union so had to cut it off, fit a new one and re-flare the pipe. Cost quite a bit of time as I didn’t have a flare tool and has to buy one.

Also gave the one piece shaft caps a lick of paint as they were looking a little tired.


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hank



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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Ashcroft HD front flanges fitted (one piece shafts/flanges already on the rear)

On the lookout for a 4 pin front diff now and I’ll be happy with the driveline. Have already fitted an Ashcroft output shaft, rebuilt the transfer box with an updated cross pin and have a 4 pin diff on the rear so plenty strong enough for my needs


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I don’t know if Ashcroft have improved their coating, but I’d get those flanges painted before any salt goes down on the road. Mine looked a mess after one trip up to Edinburgh. 2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green

Agreed its Censored poor.

I coated mine in Buzzwelds GIO in Anthracite & lacquered to match my Bowlers. Year on still good! Instagram @defender_ventures
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hank wrote:


On the lookout for a 4 pin front diff now


Fyi, Ashcrofts lockers are 4 pin. You may leave the air supply out, so will be an open 4pin diff. If in the future you want a locker, then it will be there. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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hank



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D’oh! Wish I had known this before fitting Rolling Eyes > 110 XS Double Cab
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