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natyeo



Member Since: 27 Jan 2013
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Rusty sump
Hi just been greasing my prop shafts my sump pan on 2014 @64: plate has some very bad rust spots, any one else had this issue , not good on a young motor 2014 2.2 90 hard top , Warm M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper, Ashcroft rear atb
2012 2.2 tdci 110 Utility
1993 110 CSW Warn M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper , 2" lift , Roamerdive overdrive, on going
1971 Hybird 200tdi, 2 x truetracs,Extrem winch bumper, M8000, GKN overdrive & Coils 2" lift, Glynn Lewis cranked rear trail arms
1971 Series 3 88, Perkins 4203,M8000,SATs,O/D,
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
It's not uncommon on most cars, it gets pelted with stones and chips the paint.

Fiat's for example are horendous for it, it's just most modern cars have acoustic under trays to shield the sump from stones these days.

Should be an easy job to replace on a defender, they're not normally difficult on ordinary cars.
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agentmulder



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Just wait for an oil leak to come along... Whistle Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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Roverrobbie



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2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
Had quite a few deep rust spots on 07 defender sump. Chipped off carefully using cold chisel. Treated and painted . Coated with bilt hamber wax and seems to have stopped the rust meantime. Anyone with a puma should check the sump before it empties seven litres of oil over the driveway.
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
A quick look online suggests it's about £120 for a genuine Land Rover one or £80odd for a Bearmach one.

https://www.lrdirect.com/LR007598-Pan-Engine-Oil/

I would expect to get it cheaper than that with a discount at your local friendly main dealer.

at £100ish i'd think twice about messing about patching up a rust holed one, there's no reason a new one can't be given an extra coat of paint before fitting.

Surface rust should be easily dealt with if caught early though, clean off with a flap wheel and a good coat of tough thick paint.
Post #607115 5th Mar 2017 10:35pm
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natyeo



Member Since: 27 Jan 2013
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Ha Ha now got damp oil patches after painting it last time , do I buy genuine sump or Bearmach one any feed back would be nice , (gut feeling both would be made in turkey or india factory) 2014 2.2 90 hard top , Warm M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper, Ashcroft rear atb
2012 2.2 tdci 110 Utility
1993 110 CSW Warn M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper , 2" lift , Roamerdive overdrive, on going
1971 Hybird 200tdi, 2 x truetracs,Extrem winch bumper, M8000, GKN overdrive & Coils 2" lift, Glynn Lewis cranked rear trail arms
1971 Series 3 88, Perkins 4203,M8000,SATs,O/D,
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discomog



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I recently replaced a a steel sump pan. Before fitting the new one I painted it with black chassis paint and then covered it in a couple of coats of stone chip.

It's inevitable that your sump is going to be blasted with tarmac chippings and the like so you'll have to resign yourself to the fact that until you convert to an EV you're always going to have the problem. Big Cry Defender 90XS SW
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Post #834227 30th May 2020 11:18am
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natyeo



Member Since: 27 Jan 2013
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Just got genuine one for £79.99 , it will get lots of coats of paint on it , just grinds when 200 tdi 110 done 225,000 miles , and fine , hybrid done 224567 miles and fine , series 3 with real perkins 4,203 done 345,896 miles Alloy sump , fine , bloody puma done 117195 miles and washed lots dies. call it progress 2014 2.2 90 hard top , Warm M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper, Ashcroft rear atb
2012 2.2 tdci 110 Utility
1993 110 CSW Warn M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper , 2" lift , Roamerdive overdrive, on going
1971 Hybird 200tdi, 2 x truetracs,Extrem winch bumper, M8000, GKN overdrive & Coils 2" lift, Glynn Lewis cranked rear trail arms
1971 Series 3 88, Perkins 4203,M8000,SATs,O/D,
Post #834232 30th May 2020 11:34am
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UtilityTruck



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Is it more exposed on the puma? I’ve some rust spots on my 2014 as well and that’s been regularly under sealed from new...

I’m not sure I buy the stone chip argument; my front diff pan is perfect and is lower to the ground than the sump and has a far bigger area to receive incoming stone chips..? 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2
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natyeo



Member Since: 27 Jan 2013
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
I think it's just poor quality steel and thin with poor coating , use mine off road a bit but keep it clean under chassis etc. 2014 2.2 90 hard top , Warm M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper, Ashcroft rear atb
2012 2.2 tdci 110 Utility
1993 110 CSW Warn M8000 , Scorpain winch bumper , 2" lift , Roamerdive overdrive, on going
1971 Hybird 200tdi, 2 x truetracs,Extrem winch bumper, M8000, GKN overdrive & Coils 2" lift, Glynn Lewis cranked rear trail arms
1971 Series 3 88, Perkins 4203,M8000,SATs,O/D,
Post #834310 30th May 2020 9:06pm
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Vitesse



Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I had to change my 2015 tdci sump after three years old Rusted Quite bad
Difficult job though. Was very tightly held with sealer 2015 90 XS Santorini Black
Post #834485 31st May 2020 9:39pm
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Gloucesternige



Member Since: 17 Jan 2020
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
In my opinion the rusty sump issue on the Pumas is nothing to do with stone chips, it's more down to very thin paint applied in a dip tank on top of poorly treated steel. When I grit blasted my 2011 sump it was clear there were grease spots on the sump and pretty much every other painted bracket on the engine before paint was applied.

In one of my videos I show removing paint with my finger nail and exposing bare steel beneath.

To all you guys who are contemplating extra coats of paint and stonechip, I suggest you quickly go over the sump with some coarse emery paper to remove any "non-keyed" paint from the surface, whether your sump is new or old. Nige

Check out my You Tube channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/Defender90KeswickNigelsLandRoverchannel
Post #839275 23rd Jun 2020 11:54pm
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