↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home > Puma (Tdci) > Sump Corrosion
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 1
Print this entire topic · 
Muddybigdog



Member Since: 11 Apr 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 992

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Sump Corrosion
Today Mrs MBD took the 90 to the supermarket, only to get a tannoy call can the owner of a silver Land Rover go to customer services ASAP. Turns out that the 90 has dropped a sump full of oil over their car park. Called RAC they turned up and said the sump is corroded and there is a hole spewing the oil, anyone else had similar? Can't work out why a container full of oil has corroded, or is there another likely culprit? Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold
D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold)
Freelander 2 HSE - Sold
Freelander 1 - Sold
Disco 2 - Sold
Post #547892 11th Jul 2016 8:10pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16884

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Has it been offroad, and if so does it have the original sump?

Early Pumas had an issue with the Ford sump pan getting whacked by the front propshaft under certain conditions of articulation. Whilst under warranty a main dealer would change it FOC but only if asked.

Is it possible that the sump had propshaft impact damage?
Post #547896 11th Jul 2016 8:26pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 3997

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
When I was under my 07 Puma at the weekend, I noticed my sump has a couple of spots of heavy corrosion that need addressing asap. There are no dents or scuffs. I guess a well aimed stone chip is enough the get it started.

It makes no difference that it is covered in oil on the inside as the rust starts on the outside.
Post #547900 11th Jul 2016 8:40pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
ian series 1



Member Since: 17 Nov 2014
Location: south
Posts: 3127

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
Sumps do rust, quite common to see on many vehicles.
They usually pin hole and just seep oil, only until you touch them by disturbing the outer layer they will then start leaking quite quickly. Rolling Eyes

I had sucsefull results a few months ago repairing a straight six Volvo truck sump.
The dealer wanted nearly a grand for the sump and gasket, so I thought we have nothing to loose and went about repairing it.

I've tried to weld them up before, but they are generally rather thin, and you either make them worse, or just keep blowing holes, bit like trying to weld a rotten exhaust!!

I took the sump off, stripped it to bare metal and gave the whole outside surface a skim of Plastic Padding Chemical metal filler.

Rubbed it down, then another skim, re painted it looked as good as new, and holding up very well to date!

obviously a tdci sump should be reasonably priced? I would like to think around £100 mark???
I would try a ford dealer for the sump rather than Land Rover.. Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #547909 11th Jul 2016 9:00pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16884

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The Ford sump is not the same as the Defender sump due to the propshaft clearance issue mentioned above.

About £95 genuine, £50 pattern by the looks of it. I think the one I had fitted in 2010 was about £30 new genuine.
Post #547914 11th Jul 2016 9:18pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19579

United Kingdom 
Blackwolf - I'll have to check mine, if I remember mine is in quite good condition.
I never rust proofed it with stonechip or
Dinitrol and its so close to the engine and no doubt gets hot.

I've just used WD40 on it on a rag instead IIRC, what have others drones? Prevention would be better than cure. Thumbs Up
Post #547941 11th Jul 2016 10:07pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2247

United Kingdom 
I had a 2008 Transit Connect tdci from new and there was a recall to replace the sump due to "corrosion".

Just be glad it didn't drop its oil while you were on the motorway!
Post #548009 12th Jul 2016 8:08am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Dave-H



Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1507

England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
We get quite a few Transits with this issue.
Like Ian, we merely clean the sump pan up/out and repair with J B Weld or similar, then hand paint with Hammerite.
Far easier and cheaper then replacement.

Never Ever had a repaired one fail again Thumbs Up Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #548022 12th Jul 2016 8:52am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16884

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Roll on the Nakatanenga (or equivalent) stainless sump pan!
Post #548081 12th Jul 2016 12:10pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cuthbert



Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Up North
Posts: 1535

Dave-H wrote:
We get quite a few Transits with this issue.
Like Ian, we merely clean the sump pan up/out and repair with J B Weld or similar, then hand paint with Hammerite.
Far easier and cheaper then replacement.

Never Ever had a repaired one fail again Thumbs Up


I just don't get that positive feeling about Ford design and longevity. I'm thinking about the cost accountant tasked with saving on every stage of design, materials, production and assembly.
Post #549196 16th Jul 2016 9:17pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Happyoldgit



Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Rather like the British Leyland days. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

[Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc]

http://forums.lr4x4.com

I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
Post #549214 16th Jul 2016 9:59pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DEFENDER2.NET RSS Feed - All Forums