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grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

Yeah it's a fairly easy swap as lots of people are doing it now. Existing cooling pack will work and then it's just a case of ECU and wiring.

I'm planning to run the 6 speed BMW 'box with an adapter to the LT230. I'd thought about running the R380 but I think it would struggle after a better turbo and a remap.

I'll be swapping for a 1:1 transfer box ratio as the BMW 6th gear is actually lower than the R380 5th. The transfer box change will bring it quite close to Puma gearing so 2000 rpm in top will be approximately 63mph

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29th Jan 2020 3:26pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
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2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

grafty99 wrote:
Indeed the 204PS version. I was going to go N57 twin turbo but it was so expensive that I may as well have gone for a big V8.

I've considered a V8 for a long time but as its my daily vehicle I can't really justify something that only does 15mpg on a daily basis. The M57 is a good compromise as it sounds nice, is quite good on fuel, is very cheap to get hold of and can be tuned for quite respectable power. I'm not going to go mad with it, but a hybrid turbo and some tuning should see about 300bhp and 650nm of torque or there abouts.

I'd choose a tuned M57 over an LS3 every day of the week. Suits the Defender perfectly. WARNING.
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29th Jan 2020 5:45pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

Yeah that's the conclusion I came to as well

29th Jan 2020 6:06pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4937

grafty99 wrote:
Yeah it's a fairly easy swap as lots of people are doing it now. Existing cooling pack will work and then it's just a case of ECU and wiring.

I'm planning to run the 6 speed BMW 'box with an adapter to the LT230. I'd thought about running the R380 but I think it would struggle after a better turbo and a remap.

I'll be swapping for a 1:1 transfer box ratio as the BMW 6th gear is actually lower than the R380 5th. The transfer box change will bring it quite close to Puma gearing so 2000 rpm in top will be approximately 63mph

how much is this setting you back?
the vvc cost me 2k Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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30th Jan 2020 2:40am

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2069

Be following with great interest!

The 6 speed auto or manual?

Could be a nice conversion instead of a 3UZ V8 Instagram @defender_ventures
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30th Jan 2020 7:22am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

Cost so far is nothing. My cousin gave me the engine and gearbox out of a car he's breaking. I'd imagine it'll be about £1500 all in, which I'll be able to recover most of if I sell on my engine and gearbox.

It's a 6 speed manual

30th Jan 2020 10:03am

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2069

Yes!!!! I like it alot! Instagram @defender_ventures
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30th Jan 2020 10:10am

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4937

grafty99 wrote:
Cost so far is nothing. My cousin gave me the engine and gearbox out of a car he's breaking. I'd imagine it'll be about £1500 all in, which I'll be able to recover most of if I sell on my engine and gearbox.

It's a 6 speed manual

Great stuff! I don't have family like that sadly. My cousin wouldn't even dream of giving me anything like that at all. My pals would though. In return in helping me put it all together

Are you going to be doing custom mounts, or will this lot just bolt straight in? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

2nd Feb 2020 1:42am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

I have a very close knit family so I'm very lucky in that regard

I'm not sure what's happening engine mount wise yet. I'm going to attempt to not cut or drill anything so I would imagine I'll have to do some fabrication. I plan to use the active BMW engine mounts if I can

2nd Feb 2020 9:08am

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4937

good stuff, last thing you want to be doing is cutting, that you don't need, the metro lads Christ were a nightmare! " you need to cut this", "you need to cut that" "you need to do this etc"

Me I got that

off with it, that me and my dad did a dry fit on the subframe. it all fitted as though it was OEM! we didn't need to do anything at all.
Later found out, from a metro racing driver, that I could have did the wiring loom my self, with out paying £70 quid. He said I could have told you the pin layout if I knew you were doing a vvc conversion. Only 6 earths on the loom needed to be moved

I would do another engine conversion again, but i would make sure that the support and parts were at hand. If i knew the hassle i was going to have, i wouldnt have even gone anywhere near metros again. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

2nd Feb 2020 3:11pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

Yeah, I'm lucky in the fact that the M57 is a popular conversion for defenders so it should be pretty smooth sailing

2nd Feb 2020 10:29pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

Nothing has happened with the M57 yet. I've got it on an engine stand ready for partial stripping, inspection and cleaning (with a few upgrades along the way).

Whilst the 90 was in the workshop, sheltering from storm Dennis, I did a few little tweaks. One of them was to rubber mount all of the central locking actuators so that it doesn't sound like you're slamming the gate shut on a jail cell when you lock it

Now it locks with a gentle click (a bit like my parents L322)

17th Feb 2020 10:04am

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3615

Did you take any pics of what you did? Sound like a nice little upgrade.

17th Feb 2020 3:26pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4784

I didn't actually, basically I just put rubber grommets in the holes and a washer behind the screw head. Effectively isolating the actuator from the metal completely

17th Feb 2020 6:14pm

Procta

Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 4937

Might be worth me doing this, but I will have to get my doors sorted 1st. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

18th Feb 2020 2:32am

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