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rodstir



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PTO for TDCI
Hi

Just after some info on the TDCI regarding fitting a PTO to the gearbox. Is it possible? What systems are out there? Anybody completed this mod?

Thanks

Rodstir
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diesel_jim



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The bloke that lives down the road from me, works for Scottish & southern elctricity, drives a nice shiney puma 110 with a whacking great PTO winch on the front (he used to have a Td5 110 with same winch), so yes, they're available.

transfer box on the puma is the LT230, same as all the previous models of 90/110/130, so fitment shouldn't be a problem at all; if you're retrofitting an older winch "kit" onto a puma, it'll just be (i think...) a case of getting the PTO shafts the right length (not sure how much further forward or back the geabox is mounted on a puma compared to say, a Td5)
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AndrewS



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Could it he a Hydraulic winch he has Question driven off a PTO driven hydraulic pump Question 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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rodstir



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Thanks for the info guys.

i am planning to run a Godiva fire pump in the back of truck.

Any ideas how the PTO is engaged is it electronic or manual?
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diesel_jim wrote:
The bloke that lives down the road from me, works for Scottish & southern elctricity, drives a nice shiney puma 110 with a whacking great PTO winch on the front (he used to have a Td5 110 with same winch), so yes, they're available.

transfer box on the puma is the LT230, same as all the previous models of 90/110/130, so fitment shouldn't be a problem at all; if you're retrofitting an older winch "kit" onto a puma, it'll just be (i think...) a case of getting the PTO shafts the right length (not sure how much further forward or back the geabox is mounted on a puma compared to say, a Td5)


SSE went over to electric winches now, not PTO driven, even the last TD5s they had had leccy winches. I have never seen a puma with a PTO winch. Neutral 2011 110 USW
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Post #49735 25th Dec 2010 1:51pm
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Lorryman100



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First four does PTO driven hydraulic winches and PTO pumps:

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/gearbox-driv...401896.htm
http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/hydraulic-winches/398014.htm

This is the system I will be going for eventually:

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/stage-4-type-r-...730194.php

with this bumper:

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/defender/defend...707674.php
Post #49739 25th Dec 2010 2:36pm
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nakatanenga



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Won't fit until you replace the x-member. The LT230 box moved 70mm backwards with the Tdci. So the PTO interfers with the x-member.

AFAIK no fit and forget PTO available for Tdcis

Peter WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k
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Lorryman100



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once I get the dimensions for the pump I will go underneath and measure it up, The propshaft is my main concern so maybe a lift? Or one of X eng propshafts. The other idea was to cut out a section of x member and reinforce with a plate on the opposite side.

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nakatanenga



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unfortunately the rear propshaft....

With a special made x-member it should work WANTED:

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22900013A wrote:
SSE went over to electric winches now, not PTO driven, even the last TD5s they had had leccy winches. I have never seen a puma with a PTO winch. Neutral




I'll pop over later and ask him if i can take some piccies of it. to be honest i've never looked closely to see if it's hydraulic or electric or mechanical. it looks like a big mechanical husky, but i could be wrong.
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There are two take off points for pto on a LT230 transfer box, in the back and underneath , you can then either fit a prop type mech takeoff or a hyd pump . the undernaeth option is a lot more expensive than the rear , due extra castings etc,
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Yannis



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Has anything become available for a hydraulic pump on the 2.2 in the 10 years this thread has been dormant?
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hank



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2.2, 2.4, TD5... Makes no difference. All Defenders use the LT230 Transfer box which is where the PTO hydraulic pump fits, just run and mount the hoses where you wish.

Quite a few options available from a quick google search. For example http://www.lr-winches.com/Parts/Power_Take...ender_PTO/ > 110 XS Double Cab
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Yannis



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I believe from reading previous posts it’s not so simple on the 2.2/2.4. The transfer box moved back and now the Rear Cross member gets in the way of mounting anything.
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hank



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From what I understand the rear crossmember doesn't have the PTO drive hole, but if you just want a hydraulic pump and not a shaft to drive a PTO at the rear then it's relatively straightforward

2.2 specific kit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defe...2602925846 > 110 XS Double Cab
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