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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554  |
BBC charged the TV licensing sume years ago if have any thing that can receive broadcast TV you will need license
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25th Feb 2016 1:36pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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I was under the impression if you watch recordings I.e bbc iplayer then you still need a licence. As regards to the powers of entry I would of thought it would be similar to that of debt collectors, if a property has an open door they can walk in announcing themselves and once in don't have to leave.
If the person has spoken to the relevant people explaining the situation and they simply want to check no cables are fitted then he should have nothing to hide and as long as the person has correct Id there should be no problem. There are some clips on YouTube where people start filming the inspector which results in the inspector turning around very quickly. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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25th Feb 2016 1:41pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20919 
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DVD would be fine, it's the catch up to that'd be the issue.
Another money screwing tactic with no political control to curtail it either... |
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25th Feb 2016 1:50pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
I must have 40+ letters from capita (capita are responsible for enforcing the tv licence) from the last 18 years I've been here. (I haven't paid for a tv licence ever(25years).I ignore them.They have sent the lowest of the low human trash round,who act like they own the place,it really is best if you can record their visits tho.They threaten criminal action, but 999.99% of the time only prosecute in a civil court (in which case THEY have to prove your guilt).SO,don't tell them your name,just close the door.They HAVE to prove you are watching tv.Which is impossible without your admission.They only have right of access to your front door,everywhere else is trespassing. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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25th Feb 2016 1:54pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
100% no,you ONLY need a licence if it is broadcast LIVE.It says on BBC website,you do not need a licence to watch I Player. If you watch the 6pm news at 6pm then you are breaking the law,as you ARE watching it live.Could watch it maybe 3 seconds or 60 minutes later and it's 100% legal.The bbc don't generally put it on Iplayer for a good 60 min tho. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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25th Feb 2016 2:12pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
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25th Feb 2016 2:16pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-...u-watch-it
I do think it's odd that you can't record something without a TV license but you can watch it on iPlayer, but that's how it is. I just have my TV connected up to a Chromecast and use iPlayer catchup, I'm never in when things are on anyway and I watch very little TV at all. I'm not sure where the TV cables are in my house either. I've only been in it about 6 months but I do know the aerial fell off the roof a couple of years back because I was living in the house next door at that point and it landed in my garden  |
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25th Feb 2016 2:17pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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The website is quite clear that you need a license if you're recording it (which is how timeshifting boxes work). The only thing I'm not clear about is iPlayer's built in timeshifter, if you're watching stuff live then you can (or used to be able to, I haven't tried recently) scroll back up to a couple of hours. Now that is undeniably online catchup and you're watching it non-simultaneously with broadcast, but if you only shift it a few minutes then it's basically the same. Still, I wouldn't be comfortable doing that, it's being a bit too sneaky for my liking  |
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25th Feb 2016 2:21pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
I really am not sure about timeshifter,but the facts are if you are not watching it LIVE (coronation street at 1900hrs),OR even RECORDING it live.Then it truly is not illegal,simples. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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25th Feb 2016 2:46pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
At 1900 hrs on wednesday I am breaking the law watching WEDNESDAYS episode of Coronation street.If the broadcasters repeated the same episode at 1901,I would not be breaking the law.. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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25th Feb 2016 2:49pm |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Yorkshire Dales Posts: 693 
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I have a flat with no ability to receive live TV broadcasts (No aerial or Broadband), all you need to do to get capita off your case is inform them that there is no live TV receiving in the property, they will write every 2 years to reconfirm.
Their threatening letters are evil and tantamount to "demanding money with menaces" and I have addressed this via my MP in the past. If Capita nock on you door, do not sign anything or inform them of you name, just confirm that there is no receiving of TV taking place and shut the door. If you sign their forms you have effectively entered a contract with Capita who will pursue you under civil law, without name or signature then it requires BBC to take you to court criminally at which point innocent until proven guilty and beyond reasonable doubt takes over. I've never understood how a battery operated laptop receiving live broadcast would be judged as you can sit in a bus stop and receive live broadcasts on your laptop and not need a licence, there used to be a dispensation for portable battery operated receivers I recall. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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25th Feb 2016 3:05pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6772  
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I couldn't be bothered with the hassle. It doesn't cost that much really. Ray
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25th Feb 2016 5:26pm |
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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214 
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During a TV licence 'sting' in the area I lived when I was 19, my first flat where I'd been for just 4 weeks after moving out from my parents, I had a visit from TV licensing...
The inspector was really pseudo-friendly and said that nothing was likely to happen if I told the truth, bought a licence and back-dated it but if I lied to them and they found out, I would be prosecuted with the full force of the law. I was terrified and it was a genuine oversight so came clean, signed an admission and did as advised - backdated a licence and sent it in to them. About 3 months later they summonsed me to court and they kindly prosecuted me which resulted in a £90 fine and worse still I was given a criminal record that followed me around for 5 years until it was considered 'spent'. Under certain circumstances I still have to declare this criminal record 25 years plus later. As you may perhaps understand, I have a great dislike for the TV Licensing people and never understood why it was a criminal offence when really it should have been a civil matter between me and the BBC. I ignore any letters/threats if I know I am in the clear and do absolutely nothing to help them keep their records updated. Phil |
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27th Feb 2016 5:54pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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in the news today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35708623 HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response
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