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Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

My first warning light, is this my welcome to ownership :)

Hello

Drove in this morning at a steady 60mph, as everything zooms past I notice a light flash up on my dashboard.

Its a picture of an engine. I Guess the engine management light.

My handbook is at home, so cannot look up what this means.

Any indication what this could be, Its a 2.4 model.

Many thanks

sad day

15th Oct 2015 10:02am

ian series 1

Member Since: 17 Nov 2014
Location: south
Posts: 3127

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

Just needs reading on Diagnostics.

Don't worry too much, as they can throw a wobbly sometimes and mean nothing!

I would buy a cheap code reader so you can check yourself, rather than paying a garage to do it for you. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.

15th Oct 2015 10:22am

RED-DOT

Member Since: 29 Jun 2009
Location: stirling
Posts: 2363

If you start and fully restart the engine 6-10 times it will reset. if your 2.4 hasn't had an EGR replaced it may be an early sign of an imminent failure. I just had mine changed at 36,000 miles and the old one degraded so slowly i forgot how good it should run. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

15th Oct 2015 11:04am

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

^ That sounds promising, the start and stop routine. Although I wonder why it came on?

Mine on 62K no idea if that valve has been changed or not, any idea on cost?

Its got a After Market warranty so do I take it in now, or just stop start and hope it resets?

Thanks

15th Oct 2015 11:14am

RED-DOT

Member Since: 29 Jun 2009
Location: stirling
Posts: 2363

At that mileage it has probably had at least one and possibly a clean and refit. A hard reset (+ve cable off) would probably put the EML out if the stop/start doesn't.
Your engine will run much sweeter with a new one. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

15th Oct 2015 11:34am

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

How much are they?

I've not driven another so cannot compare it with one, it seems to drive fine to be honest?

Coming from a normal automatic car its more my poor gear change etc that makes the ride fun

I'm getting used to that though

15th Oct 2015 11:37am

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6487

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Is it still on, or did it come on and go off?

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

15th Oct 2015 11:48am

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

I will walk over to it in the carpark at lunch,

When it came on it stayed on.

I did turn it off when here and then on in the 'hope' it would go out... But it didn't

Will see if its on when I go out soon,

15th Oct 2015 11:49am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

From a couple of old thread about 'nuisance codes.'

K9F wrote:
Probably not. We could speculate all day as to what it may or may not be. When it slowed to a crawl did you initiate this or was it in limp mode? There are numerous 'nuisance codes' P1103 being the most common that will appear, put a MIL (engine management light) on and then automatically reset after a few driving cycles. Buy yourself a cheap, proven fault reader perhaps like a Scangauge II and at least you'll have a vague idea what it is your dealing with?

If it did go into limp mode get to your dealer/independant or get your reader sooner rather than later.

K9F wrote:
From a similar thread....Do a search and put 'p1103' in the search box.

K9F wrote:
A Mass Air Flow fault will throw up a MIL light and drive perfectly well! It is usually accompanied with a P1103 code if you have a reader! It states Mass Air Flow either high or low but still within limits! In this instance the MIL light will extinguish after a few driving cycles and the fault will be logged in your ECU! Nothing to worry about as it is effectively a nuisance fault!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

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15th Oct 2015 12:13pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

Still on and I started / stopped the car and moved forward and back half a dozen times in a hope it would go off..

15th Oct 2015 12:14pm

RED-DOT

Member Since: 29 Jun 2009
Location: stirling
Posts: 2363

Did you stop/start from key position "0" to start many times? Just flicking back and forward will not reset EML. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

15th Oct 2015 12:19pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

About 6 times key out to engine on

Light still on

15th Oct 2015 12:26pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

It may reset after a few driving cycles. Invest in a Fault Code Reader and/or call Land Rover assist if you are under warranty? If not the reader will pay for itself first time you use it in a situation such as this. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

15th Oct 2015 12:26pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3696

What reader do I need and where does it plug in.

Are they easy to use?

15th Oct 2015 12:27pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Do a search using keywords such as Ultragauge, Scangauge, Fault code reader. It plugs in to the OBDII socket under the panel below the steering wheel by your right knee and will give you real time readouts of several parameters not shown on the dashboard and the ability to read and clear fault codes. Very easy to use. Please do not ask what an OBDII socket is.

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

15th Oct 2015 12:31pm

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