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pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

if it was a transit...

ok my honest thoughts after 24 hours of ownership.

1. I love landrovers. No other reason to buy one.

2. LR are deliberately lazy don't really give a f0ck about build quality quality. For example they are using allegro indicator stalks which cost less than the teabags the staff get free. Why ?

3. A real car manufacturer (VAG/jap) can point laugh and then put on their ear defenders (no pun intended)to the puma engine. It has the power but sounds terrible bordering on the embarrising. Did ford contractually force landrover to make it sound like a bag of spanners in a tumble dryer ? The transit doesn't sound this bad even when running on one cylinder.

4. RUST! Why am i seeing rust on a two year old motor ? Ok its only on the steps, bumper front and back but they were fitted at the factory. I am assuming we don't get the 10 year anti corrosion warranty ? Again pure brummie laziness, disappointing.

After all this mickey mouse

that the factory could sort by not being clueless and hiring an ex VW apprentice for a monday morning to correct the build quality, i still like it. Even if it is less refined than a skoda.

Pom

24th Jul 2010 7:52pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6044

What's wrong with the allegro indicator stalks? they work, they've worked for donkeys years... covered in mud & poo. ideal!

24th Jul 2010 8:28pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

In fact the Allegro stalks are one of my favourite bits - none is this tosh that looks like an Aiwa hi-fi on the end of a black pipe!

24th Jul 2010 9:15pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19652

yeah you should try the new Focus stalks try and indicate and turn the radio on instead crappy complicated chunky things they are. no thanks

24th Jul 2010 9:23pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

Re: if it was a transit...

pom wrote:

4. RUST! Why am i seeing rust on a two year old motor ? Ok its only on the steps, bumper front and back but they were fitted at the factory. I am assuming we don't get the 10 year anti corrosion warranty ? Again pure brummie laziness, disappointing.
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Pom

Pom, if you have only got Rust on your steps and bumper i'd be very happy...I need a new bulkhead on mine ?? NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

24th Jul 2010 9:28pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6266

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

fekete

I presume you are joking about the bulkhead ! ?

what is the warranty in respect of corrosion?

25th Jul 2010 7:12pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
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No not at all it going in to be replaced...I wish i was joking...6 years on corrosion

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25th Jul 2010 7:46pm

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Karl is that rust in the footwell lower dash? 2.4 90 XS
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26th Jul 2010 10:22am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5024

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

fekete wrote:
No not at all it going in to be replaced...I wish i was joking...6 years on corrosion

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After having a look at mine - when the resolved the water leak i had some rust like that - it now seems all fixed - its not a new bulkhead - its a selection of brackets attached to the bulkhead, all mine were replaced, well they are shiny steel again so if they didnt replace them the buffed them up for ages.

I may go out and double check when im fitting something to it later.

Thats not to say its the same for you - but it looks the same area.

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26th Jul 2010 1:22pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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Mike they are replacing the bulkhead because of the rust i've had the brackets done months ago
AS you say one is a bracket the other pic is the bulkhead rotten....Grockle this is under the dash but here is a pic of the footwell

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26th Jul 2010 8:05pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5024

it is shocking how now none visible surfaces get primer only not the top coat they used to...thats ford for you Mike

26th Jul 2010 9:10pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Re: if it was a transit...

pom wrote:
...........

3. A real car manufacturer (VAG/jap) can point laugh and then put on their ear defenders (no pun intended)to the puma engine. It has the power but sounds terrible bordering on the embarrising. Did ford contractually force landrover to make it sound like a bag of spanners in a tumble dryer ? The transit doesn't sound this bad even when running on one cylinder.

..........

1. Transit have piezo injectors, Defender only with "coil" because they can eat lower quality fuel.

2. Transit have "under engine" and upper noise covers, Defender not (for "mud" reasons) and the engine have a lot of room around, try to park on grass and listen the engine noise from outside......... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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27th Jul 2010 10:45pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5024

we have just bought a 10MY 2.2TDCi transit...be good to compare - they look very different

Mike

27th Jul 2010 11:16pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2271

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

Re: if it was a transit...

dgardel wrote:
pom wrote:
...........

3. A real car manufacturer (VAG/jap) can point laugh and then put on their ear defenders (no pun intended)to the puma engine. It has the power but sounds terrible bordering on the embarrising. Did ford contractually force landrover to make it sound like a bag of spanners in a tumble dryer ? The transit doesn't sound this bad even when running on one cylinder.

..........

1. Transit have piezo injectors, Defender only with "coil" because they can eat lower quality fuel.

2. Transit have "under engine" and upper noise covers, Defender not (for "mud" reasons) and the engine have a lot of room around, try to park on grass and listen the engine noise from outside.........

and can`t handle more torque due to its rather fragile

clutch assy Puma 110" SW

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28th Jul 2010 12:39am

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

mse wrote:
we have just bought a 10MY 2.2TDCi transit...be good to compare - they look very different

Waiting a deeper compare analisy with photo reportage....

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28th Jul 2010 9:18am

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